Some help from Creationists

Long time, no see, buddy!Maybe we can resume our conversation, whaddaya say?

Huh, what was wrong with the moderation? I don't seem to recall any forum guidelines being broken by me or holmes in our conversations with you.I do remember certain accusations on your part being completely refuted and then you disappeared for months.Anyway, suit yourself.

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Guidelines were not broken by you or holmes. They were blatantly broken by other individuals.

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OK.

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In any case I'm not interested in dicussing politics.

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I'll bet. LOL!

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Now was there a science topic you wanted to discuss ?

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Not at the moment, no, but I'll let you know.

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You have a Bachelors in Biology, satrekker?From what school?

My spidey sense is telling me that it is quite unlikely that satrekker actually has a BS in Biology.They wouldn't be the first Young Earther to fabricate credentials and expertise to sound more credible, if my suspicion is correct.

Oh, sure, I know.I still think that this dude has no Bio degree. Check this out:http://EvC Forum: Evolution is a Religious Issue -->EvC Forum: Evolution is a Religious Issue

Hi Truthlover, I've missed having you here.

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The post you mention looks like rhetoric and invective to me, not gibberish. I think it manages to use words that address nothing of substance.

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I agree that it's not gibberish, but it's also no better that many of the more coherent Creationists without Biology degrees who have come here.

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I'm not saying Satrekker has a biology degree, but from what I can tell, bias and wishful thinking carry a lot of power over even educated people. Maybe I underestimate the effect of a college education, but I think an educated, biased person could easily have written that post.

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Oh, for sure. I do think he's probably educated....just not in Biology....or Chemistry or Physics.He probably has a degree in Business of English or something and avoided all science since the 10th grade.

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About 20 years ago, I went to a class at a Baptist church on evolution conducted by a Chemist. He presented the whole "the odds are against it" argument, complete with adding up all the amino acids it takes to make a protein and ending with 10 to the 200th power, etc. He said, "the same evidence that convinces me the earth is old also proves to me evolution couldn't have happened." He was definitely a professional chemist, working for the defense department.

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Well, that Chemist was making the mistake of thinking that because he was a chemist, he somehow had any business speaking authoritatively about Biology.I wonder if he was a research chemist or an applied chemist?People with science degrees who do applied work rarely, if ever, test theories. They figure out practical problems.That's a very different way of using science. One uses the method, the other uses the results of the method.