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PaulK
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Message 115 of 207 (143081)
09-18-2004 12:56 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by ID man
09-18-2004 11:16 AM


Re: a response to Meyer's critics
Thanks for demonstrating what ID is all about. Insinuations and falsehoods and spin.

I didn't ask for peer-reviewed papers, and if no details were offered it would be easy for you to show an equivlaent from the ID movement. But you can't.

And there are no double standards except in the imagination of those who desperately wish to suppress the criticisms made of ID.


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Message 174 of 207 (146437)
10-01-2004 9:15 AM
Reply to: Message 166 by ID man
09-30-2004 7:52 PM


Re: we all knew this was coming
Well the DI couldn't go on ignoring the problems with Meyer's paper forever but it looks pretty bad for them.

In the context of using CSI as an argument against evolution for instance criticism 'A' even as presented by the DI author is clearly correct. Since by Dembski's defintion of CSI evolution has to be eliminated as a possible explanation before an event can be identified as CSI any attempt to use CSI as an argument against evolution begs the question. Meyer attemtps precisely this sort of argument and thereefore he is logically wrong - probably becaue he has been mislead by Dembski's assertions that "evolution cannot produce CSI" and failed to take into account what Dembski's CSI really is. I suppose it is Dembski's fault for making such a misleading assertion in the first place.

(This is also relevant to the assertion that Meyer has shown that there is CSI in biology - if he so badly misunderstands what CSI is there is no way he could have shown that it is present. He doesn't even know HOW).


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Message 192 of 207 (184401)
02-10-2005 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 190 by Percy
02-10-2005 10:41 AM


Re: A response to Sternberg's accusations against the Smithsonian
It does require a subscription.

From my own reading around I've a strong suspicion that the WSJ article is highly misleading.


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Message 194 of 207 (184412)
02-10-2005 11:48 AM
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02-10-2005 11:38 AM


Re: A response to Sternberg's accusations against the Smithsonian
The page works perfectly well here.

The most significant letter is the one from the Smithsonian. I'd already seen it quoted on The Panda's Thumb - but it's nice to confirm the content for myself


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Message 196 of 207 (184428)
02-10-2005 2:31 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by Percy
02-10-2005 2:02 PM


Re: Interview with Meyer and Chapman of Discovery Institute
I'm disgusted. A lot of it is questionable or false and I spotted some outright lies. And the "interviewer" is an accomplice to this sleazy propaganda piece.

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