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Author Topic:   Natural selection forced complexity to increase?
Brad McFall
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Message 6 of 13 (17534)
09-16-2002 12:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Andya Primanda
09-10-2002 5:57 AM


Nice link;
Another place I have to get back to and re or read;;
When I went into the Studio to Broadcast Locally c/e on TV I came out being confused what a sequence is that is not a series. I still do not understand this difference for the promotion for either c or e can not be even the context yet the business models seem to imply that the global ecomomy may so operate. I dunno. Maybe this time I will actually address neutral evolution directly.
You are absolutely correct to wonder how this article can be used *against* creationism for I was unable in the knoweledge we biologists actually posses to get beyond the thesis/antithesis in the first senetence as a $trend$ for the &cash [value]) of any evolution thinking has this being DISCUSSED by evolutuionists as "species selection" from which kimura's etc thought probably devolves if i was to very fy this by a reading beyond that LLoyd gives in The Structure and Confrimation of Evolutionary Theory ((for any difference of upward vs downward causation)) while agree more likely multiplicatvely rather than additively with lloyd that this speices underselection could be reduced without genic selection to a trend visible across what would in geologic time be multiple horizons but I have not put out my ideas a wrote up at home last semester on how phytons may havre gotten to warm eggs by eating e-fish and using 'elelctromotive force' for heating in Maxwell's analogy of attraction and heat for any repulsion the reading o Weiner may give an ant for a brain etc chaegeuxetc etc but my version is just as narrative and I prefer to keep my personal version private untill I derive results from it deductively and thus general. The word the evolutionst is using against one here is "trend" and I think that cone or not much of what Gould thinks is not a line IS but this requries to put and be put on the line that only you or I or someone else must to before it is... etc.
I got over this %dream* of (demon) by trying to read what was true in the book "The Human Use of Human Beings" by Norbert Wiener 1954 out of Houghton Mifflin with sub-title 'Cybernetics and Society
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Brad McFall
Member (Idle past 5033 days)
Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 11 of 13 (18600)
09-30-2002 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Peter
09-30-2002 7:32 AM


Franics Crick once wrote with regard to biology " A rock is much less ordered". It seems to me that on some notion of information a rock could be more ordered than a virus able to mutate and "evolve"
We seem to be confusing the statistics of the matter from the noise in the signal. Mandelbrot KNEW that something other than a normal distribution could be the nature of the noise in the telephone pattern but we have not a genetic science able to investigate the many more than the already perhpas too many chemical combinations to investigate in the time it takes ATT to change it's TV commerical. Apes can not dial down this centerd slow.

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