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wj
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Message 31 of 157 (18554)
09-29-2002 11:43 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Minnemooseus
09-29-2002 11:16 PM


Oops, sorry for the repetition.
As I don't know HTML or UBB code I'll stick to the one I am less ignorant of.
Yes, Terry likes to take homely anecdote and extrapolate it to absurd limits. I suspect it might be from his part time church preaching activities. It might even be an effective tool in getting some information into Terry's head. God knows verifiable data and logical argument don't make it past his religious worldview filters.

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wj
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Message 32 of 157 (18558)
09-30-2002 12:10 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by mark24
09-29-2002 7:10 PM


Here's another banning for your continued enjoyment.
Well...
Discussion was rolling along nicely (I had only recently joined Terry's board) when message #8 appeared. I decided to respond in kind by making some reference to cretinism. Bang. Terry steps in, deletes and bans without warning or even notice. It took me some weeks to realise I had been banned. I just thought that I couldn't get into the site because of some bug.
I wrote to Terry pointing out his inconsistency, to the point of leaving the provocative messge #8 up whilst deleting my response. Terry tried to justify his actions at WJA- thread and at Welcomeback WJA (sic) thread. However, as can be plainly seen, Terry never deleted the post which started the problem.
I also ran into problems with him for using the word "debunk" in respect of some creationist argument. I was warned that it was uncivil. Strangely, a range of other contributors from various parts of the US didn't think so but Terry rules OK.

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wj
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Message 33 of 157 (18662)
09-30-2002 11:19 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Minnemooseus
09-29-2002 11:16 PM


Moose, I see that you are trying to get some more interaction from other posters in the thread on catastrophic gully formation at Terry's board. Unfortunately the intellectual firepower on the creationist side at that board is very limited. Salty will pipe up if the discussion is on Darwinian evolution and decry its fallacy. EdenNod could be relied upon to throw in some irrelevent comment about creationist personalities or theological interpretation, but has apparently departed. And the rest of the creationists at the moment (a few old hands) appear to be mad as hatters and know nothing except their own interpretation of theology. You might be able to rely on TGS to throw in some tangential post which could enliven the thread but he's probably been involved in numerous similar threads with Terry on the grand canyon before.
If there is a god, pray that Lighthouse doesn't start cutting n pasting from the aig site. He doesn't understand the scientific issues involved but this does not deter him from sharing it with those who aren't interested.

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Minnemooseus
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Message 34 of 157 (18663)
10-01-2002 12:30 AM


For the local record, this is where the situation stands at the Talk Origins board:
My intital message at the "More Rapid Canyon Carving" topic:
quote:
I was visiting a friend last week, in a area I had never visited before. In his back yard, he had a stream in a 4 foot deep gulley. While I was there, there happened the largest rainstorm ever historicly known in that area. Just before I left, I notices that, in the last 24 hours, the stream had cut the gulley an additional 4 feet deeper.
This situation made me curious, so I had to ask my friend, "Where did that stream run 48 hours ago, before it started cutting the channel through your yard?"
Moose
Now, in the current message (#23), we are at an impass. The respective opinions on the above quoted are:
quote:
Terry: "That is a demonstration of uniformitarian thinking, not catastrophic thinking."
Moose: "As for my analogy, I view it as an example of catastrophic thinking. Time for some opinions from others."
I concluded that message 23 with:
quote:
One of us is clearly wrong. Bring on the judge(s).
Moose
Believe it or not,
The same old Moose
ps: Does that "catastrophic thinking" phrase have a double meaning?

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Terry
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Message 35 of 157 (18697)
10-01-2002 6:46 AM


Unbelievable. You guys are still sitting over here plotting? You were thrown out of my community - what? Eight months ago? Until Percy applied for membership the other day, I had completely forgotten about you. I followed his link here, and was once again reminded of the length you will go to to disrupt legitimate discussion.
You guys seriously need to get a life.
If there is some civility rule here, I did not see it; in that case, I apologize in advance for this post.
Terry

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Joe Meert
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Message 36 of 157 (18698)
10-01-2002 6:49 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Terry
10-01-2002 6:46 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Terry:
Unbelievable. You guys are still sitting over here plotting? You were thrown out of my community - what? Eight months ago? Until Percy applied for membership the other day, I had completely forgotten about you. I followed his link here, and was once again reminded of the length you will go to to disrupt legitimate discussion.
You guys seriously need to get a life.
If there is some civility rule here, I did not see it; in that case, I apologize in advance for this post.
Terry

Terry (aka Adolf),
There is no legitimate discussion on your board. There is only Terry talk. By the way, you should not be so paranoid.
Cheers
Joe Meert

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Mammuthus
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Message 37 of 157 (18700)
10-01-2002 7:15 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Terry
10-01-2002 6:46 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Terry:
Unbelievable. You guys are still sitting over here plotting? You were thrown out of my community - what? Eight months ago? Until Percy applied for membership the other day, I had completely forgotten about you. I followed his link here, and was once again reminded of the length you will go to to disrupt legitimate discussion.
You guys seriously need to get a life.
If there is some civility rule here, I did not see it; in that case, I apologize in advance for this post.
Terry

************************
They need to get a life? You are the one that runs that moron cabal at the Talk Origins board. I see how you delete posts of those you disagree with and then ban them arbitrarily. Why not show some confidence in your beliefs and bring your little group here where others can express their ideas without your gestapo censorship tactics? Or are you so shaky in your support for your own beliefs that you don't dare?

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wj
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Message 38 of 157 (18703)
10-01-2002 8:14 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Terry
10-01-2002 6:46 AM


Ah, the courage of convictions of the lurker.
Hang around if you want any of your creationist pseudoscience delusions debunked, Terry. Your perception that people are plotting is indicative of your inability to cope with reality. Read carefully through the thread and you might realise that we are having a good laugh.
Why don't you compare the level of "legitimate discussion" going on at this and other sites compared with the level in your intellectually incestuous group.

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nos482
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Message 39 of 157 (18712)
10-01-2002 9:03 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Terry
10-01-2002 6:46 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Terry:
Unbelievable. You guys are still sitting over here plotting? You were thrown out of my community - what? Eight months ago? Until Percy applied for membership the other day, I had completely forgotten about you. I followed his link here, and was once again reminded of the length you will go to to disrupt legitimate discussion.
You guys seriously need to get a life.
If there is some civility rule here, I did not see it; in that case, I apologize in advance for this post.
Terry

You're banned. "legitimate discussion" also incluse opposing views. If anyone disagrees with you or proves you wrong you will ban them instantly without warning or giving them a chance to defend themselves. You don't know the meaning of the term. Your board is set up just like all creationist boards, to preach to the choir and to masturbate each others egoes.

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Terry
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Message 40 of 157 (18818)
10-02-2002 7:18 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by nos482
10-01-2002 9:03 AM


Deleting opposing viewpoints? Never.
Banning people because of topic? - well, let's see. If you call me a bastard, and I ban you for it, I suppose you could claim you were banned for discussing the topic of my parents marital status, but that would be just a bit of a stretch. In actuality, I have never deleted a post for other than obscene or uncivil content, nor banned a poster for other than such material. You may claim that calling your opponents points "pseudoscience" and "bunk" is not uncivil, but we all know better than that.
The claim that it is a 'stacked' board is as truthful as your other accusations. TGS is absolutely an OAE, and he has been in management from the beginning of that group. Salty is absolutely an OAE, and he shares management as well.
There are several links over there now to this group; if anyone chooses to come over here and join in the schoolyard 'debate' which takes place here, they are certainly free to do so. For my part, I will relegate this group to the same status as the usenet talk.origins, and bid it, and you -
Yom Tov -
and good riddance!
Terry
ps - if anyone is interested in ACTUAL debate, without the name calling and denigration so prevalent here, you are free to come and join us. If you cannot debate without these tactics, save yourself time and embarrassment, and just stay here.
This will be my last visit to your group - so go ahead and tell each other more lies concerning how you were treated unfairly by the nasty creationists, unfettered by any reminder of the reality of the situation which happened - EIGHT MONTHS AGO!

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Mammuthus
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Message 41 of 157 (18819)
10-02-2002 7:30 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Terry
10-02-2002 7:18 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Terry:
{Was complete content of message 40 - removed - see above - Adminnemooseus}
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
up your prozac dosage and increase the frequency of your electroschock therapy sessions....debunked debunked debunked...I guess I can see how you would hate that word since it applies to all the stupid ideas you and the moron brigade have at your creationist porn site...LOL!
[This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 10-02-2002]

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nos482
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Message 42 of 157 (18829)
10-02-2002 8:23 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Terry
10-02-2002 7:18 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Terry:
Deleting opposing viewpoints? Never.
Banning people because of topic? - well, let's see. If you call me a bastard, and I ban you for it, I suppose you could claim you were banned for discussing the topic of my parents marital status, but that would be just a bit of a stretch. In actuality, I have never deleted a post for other than obscene or uncivil content, nor banned a poster for other than such material. You may claim that calling your opponents points "pseudoscience" and "bunk" is not uncivil, but we all know better than that.
The claim that it is a 'stacked' board is as truthful as your other accusations. TGS is absolutely an OAE, and he has been in management from the beginning of that group. Salty is absolutely an OAE, and he shares management as well.
There are several links over there now to this group; if anyone chooses to come over here and join in the schoolyard 'debate' which takes place here, they are certainly free to do so. For my part, I will relegate this group to the same status as the usenet talk.origins, and bid it, and you -
Yom Tov -
and good riddance!
Terry
ps - if anyone is interested in ACTUAL debate, without the name calling and denigration so prevalent here, you are free to come and join us. If you cannot debate without these tactics, save yourself time and embarrassment, and just stay here.
This will be my last visit to your group - so go ahead and tell each other more lies concerning how you were treated unfairly by the nasty creationists, unfettered by any reminder of the reality of the situation which happened - EIGHT MONTHS AGO!

I see that you are like all of your kind, you're nothing but a coward and a liar.
Note from Adminnemooseus - I was going to truncate the quote, as I had in the previous message. I decided to preserve it, in case Terry deletes the original. Anyhow, people in general - You know, the cyberworld has a limited supply of letters. Where are we going to be if we keep squandering the supply on uneeded quotations.
[This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 10-02-2002]

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wj
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Message 43 of 157 (18830)
10-02-2002 8:42 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Terry
10-02-2002 7:18 AM


Terry, obviously you still lack the courage of your convictions. I'm sure you would be most welcome when and if you ever venture out of the protective coccoon of your own world. But be prepared to offer something more substantive than apparent anomolies.
And be prepared to be conrfonted by such incivility as dubunking the pseudoscience of creationism. (Observe, I will not be banned for making such a statement on this board.)
ta ta.
[This message has been edited by wj, 10-06-2002]

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Joe Meert
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Message 44 of 157 (18843)
10-02-2002 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by wj
10-02-2002 8:42 AM


P S E U D O S C I E N C E
Cheers
Joe Meert
(waiting for the hammer to fall)

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Message 45 of 157 (18845)
10-02-2002 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by Joe Meert
10-02-2002 11:01 AM


Joe - Lay of using all capital letters! It really ticks me off.
I'm recommending to Adminnemooseus, that every individual who posted at the Mickey-Mouse topic be given a 24 hour suspension!
Moose

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