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Syamsu 
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Message 181 of 186 (179569)
01-22-2005 6:43 AM
Reply to: Message 180 by Wounded King
01-17-2005 10:15 AM


You are basicly making an issue out of the use of the word "intelligence", probably to make an argument from ridicule later on as you did before, using colloquial meanings of the word "intellgience".
I am just explaining to you the how and why of the naming of that which decides, so as to avoid your argument from ridicule.
But again you are just displaying total ignorance about decisions on any more formal level. My explanation is valid. Let's not confuse your stubborn ignorance about decision resulting in your lack of understanding, with my supposed inability to explain it clear enough.
regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu

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Wounded King
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Message 182 of 186 (180709)
01-26-2005 5:08 AM
Reply to: Message 181 by Syamsu
01-22-2005 6:43 AM


I make an issue out of the word because you have no valid grounds for using it. Apart from your own assertion that intelligence is the only thing known to take decisions, an assertion undercut by your own ascription of 'decision' to the resolution of probabilities for any event.
I might as well argue that we have only observed intelligence in humans and some animals and therefore all other 'decisions' clearly occur in the absence of intelligence so intelligence is not required for decision.
I can't believe your audacity in accussing me of trying to confuse the issue by using colloquial meanings. The entire basis of your argument, as is so often the case in your work, is an obfustication and missapplication of meanings of terms taken from wildly different contexts in order to conform to your ideological agenda.
I wouldn't have to make an argument from ridicule if your posts weren't quite so ridiculous. I used to be able to conduct a relatively sane correspondence with you but now you seem to have taken to posting big chunks of apparent nonsense, if someone else on the board can clearly explain the rationale behind your ideas in simple terms I'd be grateful to them, you seem to be incapable of doing so.
TTFN,
WK

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Syamsu 
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Message 183 of 186 (180738)
01-26-2005 8:01 AM
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01-26-2005 5:08 AM


I see that you persist in making your argument from ridicule, completely ignoring everything I wrote.
If you object to the word "intelligence" for that which decides then.... PROPOSE ANOTHER WORD FOR IT. geez
regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu

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Wounded King
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Message 184 of 186 (181288)
01-28-2005 6:13 AM
Reply to: Message 183 by Syamsu
01-26-2005 8:01 AM


I see that you persist in making your argument from ridicule, completely ignoring everything I wrote.
Ummm, no. It doesn't seem as if you actually read my post, I did address what you wrote and I made a substantive post not relying on ridicule at all, the last paragraph was an expression of exasperation rather than ridicule.
If you object to the word "intelligence" for that which decides then.... PROPOSE ANOTHER WORD FOR IT. geez
Since we have no idea what it is that 'decides', or even if 'decisions' occur, it seems a bit previous to be choosing terms for it. I'm putting decisions in inverted commas to denote that it is a distinct concept from the commonplace usage for decisions which we make consciously.
TTFN,
WK

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Primordial Egg
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Message 185 of 186 (187497)
02-22-2005 12:53 PM


Dawkins plays London
Not sure that this is the best thread to put this in, but if anyone's interested, Richard Dawkins will be giving a talk tomorrow (23rd Feb) at the LSE in London.
Page not found – Marcus du Sautoy
If evolution could be re-run many times, what regularities might we find? Although we cannot run this experiment, the history of evolution offers several ‘natural experiments’, such as prolonged geographical isolation or speciation. And their patterns are revealing. They suggest that evolution is more predictable than some contemporary orthodoxies claim. This lecture develops ideas touched on in Richard Dawkins’s most recent book, The Ancestor’s Tale.
PE

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Brad McFall
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Message 186 of 186 (187505)
02-22-2005 1:24 PM
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02-22-2005 12:53 PM


Re: Dawkins plays London
Sounds interesting. I wonder if he is coming around to the non-Gouldian reading at Panbiogeography?

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