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Author Topic:   Bible Cryptids/Dinosaurs?
custard
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Message 2 of 202 (188736)
02-26-2005 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Vercingetorix
02-26-2005 3:04 PM


oliphant?
Well, after reading that verse the first thing I envisioned was an elephant or a hippo actually. The description seems consistent with how such animals were described by ancient authors- especially when you read :
17He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
as the animal's penis and testicles - which several on this forum have suggested is the appropriate translation.
Compare the description from Job to this description from Pliny the Elder's Natural History. (Pliny was, among other things, a Roman naturalist born about 23 AD)
quote:
The Nile produces a creature even mightier than the crocodile... It has hooves like those of oxen, a horse's back, mane and neighing sound; a turned-up snout; a boar's tail and curved tusks, although less damamging; and an impenetrable hide used for shields and helmets..."
Not as fanciful as Job, but still a fantastic description of a Hippo.
An alternative is that the Behemoth is simply a mythological creature. Pliny describes several of these in Natural History as though they actually exist - e.g. manticores and basilisks- although he does not claim first hand knowledge of these beasts.
I'm assuming Job is older than 50-60AD, so the idea that the author would describe 'legendary' yet non-existant creatures, or that he would describe strange yet real creatures in a fanciful way (e.g. the hippo) makes sense to me.
This message has been edited by custard to fix stupid mistakes, 02-26-2005 16:06 AM
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custard
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Message 12 of 202 (189205)
02-28-2005 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Loudmouth
02-28-2005 11:12 AM


loudmouth writes:
So you won't accept the opinion of people that are experts on the very book that you base your faith on? Whose opinion will you listen to?
I'm guessing his pastor.
Vercin: look, if you want to rebut the claim that 'cedar=penis' or 'behemoth=hippo,' there are more convincing ways of doing so than disparaging the opinions/interpretations of those with whom you disagree.
Let's start again. I thought my comparison to Pliny was apt. What evidence or interpretation about the passage makes you think otherwise? The 'tail' description only?
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