soul of fundamentalism

I think you're misunderstanding that the bible is written by men struggling with their creator. Why should we question the validity of the writing, the descriptions of these men if Christ himself didn't?Instead of speaking for me asto what you think I think why don't you quote it directly?

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When I say fundamentalist I mean someone who believes something and doesn't question it, has faith in it and is unwaivered in belief, and actually sees it, grasps it, controls it, is the essence of beauty, peace, love and faith, of life.

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This person doesn't have to teach verbatim in what these men wrote. They can speak with their own words, and acknowledge that their were men just like them that held similiar beliefs. That didn't question God and were written about.If Jesus Christ respected these writings and spoke about them plainly then why can't you. What makes you think that you can question the writings of these men when Jesus Christ didn't?I don't know why you feel the need to play ringleader, and misinterpret what I was saying so you can redefine a fundamentalist to your liking then try to condemn your definition. I never read the "fundamentals", I don't adhere to any other christian, "word for word literalism nor ideological group beliefs of a group of conservative Christians from the early 20th century."

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Further, is it required to believe in the Bible without wavering or is it possible to love Jesus and live as Jesus wants us to live WITHOUT getting wrapped up in word for word literalism?

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I don't believe a fundamentalist is wrapped up in "word for word literalism", I think having a deep respect, adherence, and not questioning scripture that Christ doesn't is all you need to be a fundamentalist.In this I say my belief in fundamentalism. I think righteous men struggling with their creator is telling of who God is. There is a story within a story in scripture, and Christ knew that, and followers of Christ know that.

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-one word to describe me, spectacular yes

He spoke of them plainly. What makes you think he didn't?

He spoke plainly of the house built on sand. Do you think he really was speaking of two real houses and their construction?He spoke plainly of the sower. Do you think he was describing an actual event?Jesus constantly used examples, tales and parables in his teaching. The only reason that the tales of Noah, Lot, or David are viewed differently than any of the other tales or parables is that he was using reference to a story familar to the listeners.Is there anything that would make someone think he viewed the tales of Noah any differently then any of the other examples and techniques he used regularly?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

"As it was in the days of Noah""Similarly, As it was in the days of Lot"

"As it was inthe days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the son of man.""on the day that Lot left Sodom, fire and brimstone reigned to destroy them all. So it will be on the day when the Son of Man is revealed."So Jesus won't come back either?

How are those any different than any other such examples? How are those different than the sower tale? How is that different than saying "Remember what happened in Hamelin?"

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

He is referring to an event that it happened, that is different than in his parables, "remember in the days of..."

How is that different from saying "Remember what happened in Hamelin?"

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

What is "Remember what happened in Hamelin?", did Jesus say that?
can you show me where that is?

He didn't say that. But I might.Go back and read Luke 17 again. What you find is that Jesus, throughout that chapter, is teaching, using examples. He mixes in tales about how servants are treated and references, just like refering to Hamelin, that help explain his point. It's not saying that ANY of the things mentioned actually happened, they are but plot devices to try to get the listeners to understand his point. He's teaching folk how to behave, how to get along together, how to be a Christian. As in almost every instance whe have of his speech, he is talking about behavior, not belief or profession.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Okay name a parable where he referred to it as an actual event. Your little made up example is dishonest in the fact that you had to make up a fictional place that Jesus never said, You're not Jesus. I feeling you're being dishonest in your interpretation.This message has been edited by chris porcelain, 03-05-2005 12:57 AM

LOLYou do know about Hamelin don't you?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

no

I was assuming you were making up a fictional place to relay a point.

Jesus would say "in the days of the pied piper"?This message has been edited by chris porcelain, 03-05-2005 13:11 AM