Neurotheology/Biotheology

Ok that's good enough for me. It brings "no worries".

SkepticSand :Do you think the research cited in your text has a message ?Is that message: God can be artificially produced therefore God is not real.When people have these religious experiences, do any of them encounter Jesus ?What is the defintion of a religious experience in this context of experimentation ?Has anyone gotten saved/born-again ?

Hi Willowtree,Dr. Michael Persinger, who has done the research with the helmet, is an atheist. He believes in the ToE, and with his research he tries to find out more about the neurobiology behind religious experiences.
But there are also Christians behind the research of Neurotheology.They have found very interesting findings by using CAT-scan/MRI. They have i.e. comprared the brain of a Tibetan Buddhist in deep meditation and a Franciscan nun in deep prayer, and have found out that they have the same areas shut down in the brain. This is believed to be the same throughout all religions, but it take years to train your brain to get to that level of meditatation. If you try Persingers helmet, you get the same areas in the brain shut down, and that is why so many leave with profound experiences which they would claim to be religious/superstitious had it not been that they were explained after the tests.I would have liked to tried this for myself, to find out what the test persons have experienced. They seem to at least have found a way for the "average Joe" to test if their previous experiences with religious experiences is anything like the artificial Persinger induces.Whether you chose to believe that God have created this "hardwiring" in your brain, or if it is an Evolutionary trait, is up to each individual to make up their own mind. But I must say that I find the similarities that the have found through this research, whether you believe in the Christian God, Allah, Buddha or whatever, to be very interesting. Is it so that each religions God have created their own "God" area of the brain? Is it the same God throughout all religions? Or is it an evolutionary trait?Hope this clarifies some of it.Regards,
SkepticScand

Brad,Show me. If you're still up for it.Ben

Ben I am in the midst of reading times over the Jammer book so that I can respond in the middle of Dominion Seraph’s bifurcation fallacy so that he will explain this better so this will have to be quick. Your question is easier to respond to as it refers to an older post, though this response would likely not be to DS’s standards. All I can say truly is that the last chapter of Understanding Thermodynamics by HCVanNess would need to be discussed to pieces here. I am slowly opening my self to any query in physics but this is a new reach for me. What I need to do for DS is to remove the below A-truth but this is not easy since in essence I have managed to cobble together over the years of posting on EVC something similar if not identical to this innovation of Carnap.Carnap uses this word in a sketcy theory thus and notes it history.
Philosophical Foundataions of Physics

To answer now if the effects are causal with covalancey or ionics I am idling for now at

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The question as to why all electrons for an atom were not bound in the innermost shell had already been emphasized by Bohr as a fundamental problem in his earlier works. In his Gottingen lectures he treated particularly the closing of this innermost K shell in the helium atom and its essential connection with the two noncombining spectra of helium, the ortho- and parahelium aspects. However, no convincing explanation for this phenomenon could be given on the basis of classical mechanics. It made a strong impression on me that Bohr at that time and in later discussions was looking for a general explanation which should hold for the closing of every electron shell and in which the number 2 was considered as essential as 8, in contrast to Sommerfeld’s approach.

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p136JammerThe Conceptual Development of Quantum MechanicsBut no matter what the contingency is there seems to be a difference in theory between kinematics that depend on modeling small perturbations to a process or equal force systems of nuclei and perimeter particles. This I think can be contained by 1-D symmetry of mutations where the solar system model exists for base combinations beyond 7 but reduction to the pure quantum conditions exists for the logic no matter the A-truth IN THE BIOLOGY.Thus in Sommerfeld’s EXPLANATION of Gibbs’ paradox and two quantum approaches is questioned in the existence of Biologically Closed Electric Circuits for should they exist (they are questionable indeed)
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then iron vs copper in blood hemoglobin might favor ionics in the processes able to transit the equal vs not equal force processes.This is quick I have not much time right now.This message has been edited by Brad McFall, 03-06-2005 08:40 AMThis message has been edited by Brad McFall, 03-06-2005 08:41 AM

You might be interested to find out that there is an on going experiment in applied evolutionary neurotheology. This experiment takes the form of a new religious movement called Matrixism. This religion is based on the motion picture The Matrix.http://www.geocities.com/matrixism2069