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joshua221 
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Message 11 of 135 (191348)
03-13-2005 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Syamsu
03-12-2005 11:35 AM


hm
I think you are utterly disregarding the reasoning behind the terrorism. Look at the justification of a people under industrialization and war.

The subtlety of nature is far beyond that of sense or of the understanding; so that the specious meditations, speculations, and theories of mankind are but a kind of insanity, only there is no one to stand by and observe it.
-Francis Bacon "Novum Organum"

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joshua221 
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Message 14 of 135 (191364)
03-13-2005 11:19 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Syamsu
03-13-2005 10:34 PM


Re: hm
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The objective of the terrorists is to make nations which are hypersensitive to observance of Islam. I don't think it's right to say that they would be satisfied with anything else, like a comfortable life and peace for everyone, even if we could provide it.
How can you say that? Your implying that they aren't human!
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Depending on where you live, or what people you have in your neighbourhood, you may get killed depending on what you write here. Certainly the area where I live has many muslim extremists. It's not impossible I would get attacked if I say the wrong thing on this forum, and someone pointed it out to some local cleric here. I'd say it would be very good for some people around here, to get some free speech in their face, and better then doing nothing. But I'd prefer my government to do it for me, then for me to do it would be more risky, as well as it's a dirty job.
I respect this, but I'm afraid you are letting your dark situation take the best of you.

Social Darwinism enjoyed widespread popularity in some European circles, particularly among ruling elites during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. During this period the global recession of the 1870s encouraged a view of the world which saw societies or nations in competition with one another for survival in a hostile world. This attitude encouraged increasing militarization and the division of the world into colonial spheres of influence. The interpretation of social Darwinism of the time emphasized competition between species and races rather than cooperation.

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joshua221 
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Message 15 of 135 (191365)
03-13-2005 11:21 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by jar
03-13-2005 11:02 PM


Re: hm
what does WAG mean?

Social Darwinism enjoyed widespread popularity in some European circles, particularly among ruling elites during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. During this period the global recession of the 1870s encouraged a view of the world which saw societies or nations in competition with one another for survival in a hostile world. This attitude encouraged increasing militarization and the division of the world into colonial spheres of influence. The interpretation of social Darwinism of the time emphasized competition between species and races rather than cooperation.

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joshua221 
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Message 21 of 135 (192002)
03-16-2005 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Syamsu
03-14-2005 11:43 PM


Re: hm
quote:
So those plans to pay them off with a comfortable life won't work, because their desire is ideological.
Basic human rights, an idea made famous from John Locke, implied life, liberty to all humans. You show a strange philosophy about these people who share Islamic values not being human. That was annoying but these basic human rights most of the time surpass the beliefs, and ideas shared by a group of people. (Check the average Christian of America, sry for the generalization but this is what I have observed.)
How can it not work? Humans share a core desire of a happy life. Of course America is destroying this.

Social Darwinism enjoyed widespread popularity in some European circles, particularly among ruling elites during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. During this period the global recession of the 1870s encouraged a view of the world which saw societies or nations in competition with one another for survival in a hostile world. This attitude encouraged increasing militarization and the division of the world into colonial spheres of influence. The interpretation of social Darwinism of the time emphasized competition between species and races rather than cooperation.

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