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Author Topic:   Physical Energy = Thermal Energy
Christian7
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Message 1 of 4 (191747)
03-15-2005 4:29 PM


First of all, there are many different classifications of energy.
Key: F = Force energy, M = Material Energy
F: Physical Energy - The energy witch acts on an object to keep it in motion. Inertia is a familiar term that has to do with this.
F: Mechanical Energy - Energy that is present within machines that keep it running.
Such as the motion of a gear caused by a water fall on the petals.
F: Thermal Energy - Heat, the energy witch acts on individual atoms within an object.
M (Not sure really): Electrical Energy - If you don't know what electricity is, then you shouldn't be on this forum.
M (Not sure really): Chemical Energy - Energy that is stored via chemical means and can be extracted via chemical reactions. Example: A batter stores chemical energy witch is later changed into electrical energy.
M: Matter - Energy that makes up matter I believe.
Potential Energy - Make believe pretend energy that a non-moving body has simply because it can move. Example: A roller coaster is just about to gravitate towards the earth on a huge drop. It has potential energy witch then converts into physical energy (I will be debunking conversions between force energies in this thread fairly soon.) to make it plummet towards the earth.
OK, now let's try to reduce some of these energies into ONE ENERGY BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE!!!!
I think that Physical Energy is the EXACT SAME type of energy that is heat.
I will now elaborate:
All objects are made up of tiny microscopic atoms. Now, if you remove one atom away from the rest in an object, you have a new really really small object.
Physical Energy/Mechanical Energy/W/E - The energy that cause an object as a whole to move.
Thermal Energy - The energy that causes individual atoms within an object to move.
Now, if we have an object composed of only 1 atom, then when you move it, what energy does it have?
Physical or Themral?
Friction cause heat when to objects slide past each other right?
Well, if you slide ruff things past each other, the atoms are going to bump and move about of course. So basically, nothing is being converted at all. Just being transfer.
So my idea is that physical energy is just thermal energy on a big scale.
Our nervous system simply detects the present of our particles making up our body moving about and uses that to know if something is hot or cold, I think.
But I am definitely sure that physical energy is equal to thermal energy.
So, my idea is that, all energy is the same.
The only way I see that you can seperate energy is into two categories:
Matter Making Energy, Force Energy. That's about it.
Mechanical Energy and Physical energy are the same DOD darn thing.
You poor water on a gear, ok it moves. THE SAME ENERGY TRANSFERS FROM THE MOTION OF THE WATER TO THE GEAR MAKING IT MOVE!!
What has been converted? NOTHING!
And what is this deal with potential energy? My hand does not have any energy untill I decide to move it, it does not have potential energy. Only when it has energy to move does it have energy.
Just because it is not moving does not mean that because it can move means that it has energy.
OK, now, I think that these types of energies can be eliminatedd to only one!! FORCE!!!!
Now with that out of the way.
How does electricityy hold and transmit energy?
How does chemicals hold and transmit energy?
I consider these energies subcategories of material energy.
But there is only ONE FORCE ENERGY, and one what scale and situation it is used in is what we call it. So it is the same, no conversions.
OK, now I wonder if we can unify material energy with force energy hm...
But I just know I am right about the whole THERMAL = MECHANICAL = PHYSICAL = JUST MOTION OF DIFFERENT SITUATIONS AND SCALES!!
So what are your opinions?
Please explain electricity and chemical stuff to me so that I can maybe shove them together again into 1 type of energy please.
I wish there was a way to unify ALL energies together as one single type of energy.
Have a nice day.
This message has been edited by Guidosoft, 03-15-2005 06:24 PM

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Message 2 of 4 (191765)
03-15-2005 5:38 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Christian7
03-15-2005 4:29 PM


Some changes needed.
Before this can be considered for promotion you'll need to do a few things. First, please edit the OP for grammar and spelling.
Second, there most definitely is potential energy. You'll need to add a section in the beginning to show that you at least understand what the classic classifications of energy are.
If you don't fully undrstand the sub-classification it might be better to end by asking folk to explain why the sub-classes are used such as potential, kenetic, heat, electromagnetic or electrical. You might also want to get folk to explain what potential energy might include.

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Christian7
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Message 3 of 4 (191776)
03-15-2005 6:26 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminJar
03-15-2005 5:38 PM


Re: Some changes needed.
okie me fickst ta spewing ewors. Plus I added in the defintions of the energy (forgive me if my explination is not perfectly correct, that's why I posted this thread maybe someone can clarify certain types for me)
But I am so sure, that all force energies are the same.

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Message 4 of 4 (191779)
03-15-2005 6:34 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Christian7
03-15-2005 6:26 PM


Much better but still a few spelling errors.
I'll promote this simply to help you understand what the difference is between energy and Energy. In the future though, can you really check more closely for spelling issues. One example is using witch instead of which.
I know, sometimes it does seem magical.

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