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PaulK
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Message 166 of 213 (192999)
03-21-2005 7:02 AM
Reply to: Message 154 by wmscott
03-20-2005 8:40 AM


Re: Meet Mr. Stupid
Mr Selective Quoting is at least accurate.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...
This sentence rather undermines your claim that homosexuality is a choice.
Reports of complete change were uncommon.
You also appear to misrepresent this paper.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...
The sentence you quote was a premise of the research (not its conclusion) and you seem to have cause and effect the wrong way round:
Findings highlight the role of gender nonconformity in contributing to childhood rejection...
Which leads on to the question to what degree the mental (and possibly physical) health problems reported in the last two papers are a consequence of social rejection and prejudice rather than homosexuality per se.
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PaulK
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Message 175 of 213 (193122)
03-21-2005 6:15 PM
Reply to: Message 172 by wmscott
03-21-2005 4:36 PM


Re: Meet Mr. Stupid
If it were a simple matter of choice, then therapy would not be required at all. After all anyone who was happy being homosexual would not seek therapy to change that orientation in the first place.
So even AFTER choosing not to be homosexual, therapy is needed and even that is not usually a complete success in changing sexual orientation. And for some patients choice AND therapy is not enough.
Surely you cannot maintain that this paper indicates that homosexuality is a choice.

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