Atheist Frendly Q&A

Really? Well, if carnal knowledge is sexual intercourse between a man (let's say Adam) and a woman (let's say Eve) then the verse means...what?1) Adam and Eve didn't have carnal knowledge?
If not, then why the reproductive parts?2) Carnal knowledge before the fall did not lead to death?
So, "the fall" resulted in carnal knowledge leading
to death? Hmmm, which would imply that the death due to "the
fall" was NOT spiritual death afterall (an explanation used here
on this forum).

Oops! Thanks.

Hence, my faux-pa.I did, however, have a question for you. One sees quite often christians automatically slipping into this idea that they are spiritual because of being christian. This leads me to askIs the spirituality taught and espoused by Jesus Christ the same "spirit" that is talked about in the old testament as coming into someone?I ask because in my limited experience (raised SDA) I always get a very different feel from the message that JC had concerning our lives, the treatment of other people, etc when compared to the message that the old testament had and definitely even the message that Paul gave....which always struck me as a fanatical/fundamental version of what JC taught. I would liken it to the idea that no one will give you more hell about smoking than an ex-smoker!

Let me try to explain further, since I don't own a bible, so examples might be a stretch for me.From my recollection "spirit" takes on more of a "this is mine and I'm gonna give it to you" type of approach....like a physical aspect that the god could bestow on someone in the old testament:spirit moves someone
spirit moves something else (across the waters?)It's almost as though it is something done to something else.In contrast, Jesus (let's limit what is discussed to him) seems to propose a concept of spirit that involves everything...the inter-connectedness of it all....mmm kinda like ownership of one and how it relates to everything else.

Hey Phatboy!
Thanks for your reply. Although I have alot of respect for your ideas and the way you think your reply seems a bit off the mark. I'm more interested in the reason for the difference between spirituality in the old testament versus the new wrt JC (since I think that many christians feel he is the son of god as well as the god of the old testament). Hope that helps, maybe I misunderstood your reply. I will re-read it in the meantime.

Naw, I think you hit the nail on the head. Thanks.So, another question. If one takes a step back and looks at the times historically it seems that the Mediterranean region was not the only group going through this change in thinking at or around that time (Confucius/Buddha). So, do you/have you entertained the possibility that JC was the Mediterranean region's Confucius/Buddha with it's own region-tailored details?

Jar, thanks for your insight and willingness to answer my questions. I'll check out the other threads you mentioned.