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joz
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Message 4 of 142 (9422)
05-09-2002 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by dogmai
05-08-2002 7:25 PM


quote:
Originally posted by dogmai:
1)When will be finally accept that we Humans are alone.
2)When will we accept that we are the "Gods" who will create the future and who have created the past.
3)Mother earth is a result of many "bits" from other worlds landing in the same place.
4)Hence The Planet mass came first,Potential Life was embedded second, the sun came third,and the seas of our planet earth came fourth.
5)without the need for me hiding behind terms such as quarls,nutrinos, and all the rest of the jargon which is used by the scientific community,in explaining something which usually turns out to mean nothing.
6)eg: petrol cars will lead to petrol/electric cars..not battery powered cars...petrol/electric cars will be replaced by steam/electric technology...not hydogen..Steam /electric technology will be replaced by nuclear power.
7)something that we still don't understand and are afraid to handle to its fullest capacity and hence potential. something that we will master in the distant future.
8)No Gods plays the role of supreme creator,this is a protocol established and is reserved for the masses,and not for intelligent people who are trying to establish from where we came.
(joz - I skipped a chunk that didn`t seem to be going anywhere apart from saying that farmers/peasants where all idiots and needed things explained to them in words of one syllable, I recomend that Dogmai reads up on Rasputin ([singing]Ra Ra Rasputin Russias greatest love machine....[/singing] sorry bit of a Boney M moment there....)
9)Take your average Light bulb..What makes it give off light waves and light particles? No its not directly associated with electricity or vaccum. It's the free space between between the burning filament,and the glass bulb encasing the vaccum.
10)eg: You many see light burning on earth from within an orbiting spacecraft,although its light particles and waves are not able to reach you,If you were able to travel until the end of light and hence time, and turn around,you will see exactly what we are seeing know through earth/spacebound bound telescopes..Reflections of a mirror image is indeed complex and deceptive.
11)Instantaneous time is defined by the fact that if one can travel at 300000 times faster than the speed of light..then one would be travelling in an instant, with time meaning nothing.
12)Hence since the sun is the biggest torch we know..then
such light would only be able to reach a distance being the speed of light per KPS times 300,001 Km in all directions...in relation to the size of particular light source.
13)Our deep space discoveries are based on linear examination of space..hence false calculations based on linear lenghths of time and distance,and not area mass taken up by an area some 30 Billion kilometers in radius (minimum).When Light stops so does time..and the illusion begins...
14)I do have a very good hypothesis,very viable...but unfortunately totally differnt to the accepted "academic" views of today..When I feel its time to let the cat out of the bag,I will...But let me at least give you a hint..Firstly the Sun..it size has something to do with it...Big Bang theory..forget about it.
15)Next week?How did humans evolve..(which is an incorrect term)..Humans did not evolve,the base was always there,and enhancements were added..Today it's called "badge" engineering...Back then it was "nature engineering"..totally different to the definition of "evolve"..but thats another story...and a very good one at that.

1)How do you know this....
Or is this opinion based on a statistical calculation without data (i.e idle speculation) what evidence do you have? remember absence of evidence is not evidence of absence....
2)So we are "gods" and we created the past huh.....
So can I take your time machine for a spin sometime?
3)Not sure about worlds per se but certainly supernova remnants...
4)Actually I am pretty sure that were you to take your time machine go back 5 billion years and sit there observing (you are immortal right I mean you`re a god and all....) you would see the sun form before the earth...
5)Possibly you mean quarks and neutrinos....
6)How is the steam generated? do we go back to burning coal and wood? or do we use aour god abilities to vaporize it....
Fusion or Fission? I don`t think Fission is all that good a choice for a car....
7)look on links and information board for a topic called "cold fusion maybe this time" it contains a report putting fusion power about 50 or so years away....
8)Bishop Berkley wasn`t intellegent? Newton? your wrong here belief in gods or atheism is demonstrably independant of intellectual ability...
9)Um bud the free space is the vacuum...
thats why the permitivity of a vacuum is known as the permitivity of free space....
10)Actually if you could travel to the end of the light you would see what was happening at the end of the Planck era....
Which ain`t gonna happen unless you have a FTL drive as well as a time machine....
Oh and if you can see a light its wave/particles (note wave particle duality not as you expressed seperate particles and waves, put De Broglie on your reading list) have indeed reached you...
11)Well t = gamma*t`
Gamma = 1/root(1-v2/c2)
so you are saying that 0 = 1/root(-89999999999) ?
I`m sorry but I disagree with you.... even if FTL travel is possible time never stops.....
12)The sun isn`t the biggest star (thankfully) and it isn`t the brightest star (equally thankfully)...
13)Um 30 billion Km isn`t actually all that far bud, in fact it only takes light 1,000,000 seconds to travel that far.... only about 11.57 days in fact.... Sounds impressive though....
14)Hey why wait....
15)Ah so your an ID theorist then eh? but you think that we humans made ourselves and are gods..... hmmmm no this addition doesn`t make ID any more coherrant....
[This message has been edited by joz, 05-09-2002]

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joz
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Message 5 of 142 (9423)
05-09-2002 10:08 AM


Ok Percy I want a medal for trawling through that to reply.....

  
joz
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Message 69 of 142 (16799)
09-06-2002 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Tokyojim
09-06-2002 1:21 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Tokyojim:
There is nobody who will hold you accountable for that trespass of your personal behavior code. What is your motivation to follow it?
Well i`m not Mammuthus but I`ll give you an answer....
Yes there is....
Me...
Geddit...
Motivation is real simple if I don`t I feel like a 6 foot tall walking turd....

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joz
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Message 73 of 142 (16855)
09-07-2002 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Tokyojim
09-07-2002 3:17 AM


Do you construct bipedal 4 limbed sculptures out of dried wheat stalks professionally or only as a hobby?
Given the wording of:
[quote][b]There is nobody who will hold you accountable for that trespass of your personal behavior code. What is your motivation to follow it?[/quote]
[/b]
I thought it excluded secular law enforcement...
As for the rest I haven`t noticed any sort of slide into moral degeneracy personnally (and believe me I watch for it) neither has my Xtian wife so I`m sorry but the experimental evidence is against you there...
Maybe some people can take feeling like a turd better than me...
[quote][b]Since we all have our own personal behavior codes, what happens when those codes conflict with the personal choices of another? Whose code then is right and valid or takes priority?[/quote]
[/b]
Well if you are relligious you know you are right because your infallible God says so...
If you aren`t theres at least a chance of talking things through to a compromise....

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joz
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Message 101 of 142 (19358)
10-09-2002 12:55 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by Tokyojim
10-08-2002 10:59 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Tokyojim:
The quotes simply show that the leaders of the atheistic humanist movement do have a scary agenda.
Why is it any scarier than the missionary work that you do.....

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