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Author Topic:   For the Christians here: Why do the heathens rage?
Dan Carroll
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Message 61 of 79 (193673)
03-23-2005 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by nator
03-22-2005 8:42 PM


Because you get extra attacks per round and do more hit point damage.

You have to be careful, though, because it only lasts a short time and then you are fatigued.

Andrew: You are the perfect woman.

Anya: I've often thought so.


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tsig
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Message 62 of 79 (193714)
03-23-2005 3:50 PM
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03-23-2005 10:47 AM


Our story
No. Well actually, DHA and I are showing how we can disagree without my feeling like the Heathen are attacking me. What do you think, Jar? Is this related to the topic?

That's our story and we're stikin to it.

Ok Phatt, is it worth another topic?


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Message 63 of 79 (193717)
03-23-2005 4:07 PM
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03-23-2005 3:50 PM


Re: Our story....our right to stay or go.
I wanted to hear Pecos George give us a few examples of the heathen raging. To be fair, I myself have occasionally felt that my views and beliefs were ridiculed. I will never take it personally, however, because debate is what we are all about, here. How boring it would be if everyone agreed with me..I could go start my own church and become a legend in my own mind.

All of us participate here on a voluntary basis. There are forum rules and guidelines for respect of an individual. As for ideas, however, none are sacred. Percy has framed it by stating that this is a science forum.

I stay here, knowing full well that my beliefs will always be challenged. Quite frankly, I never expect them to be widely accepted.
I am here because I represent my faith and belief. And because of Dans humor! :)


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nator
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Message 64 of 79 (193748)
03-23-2005 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Dan Carroll
03-23-2005 11:17 AM


My my, Dan, aren't you aware I'm a married woman?

*wink*


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arachnophilia
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Message 65 of 79 (193826)
03-23-2005 10:41 PM
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03-23-2005 2:23 AM


Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
DHA, when Christians speak of "trying" as an impossibility, they mean that it is impossible to try and be godlike.

you may or may not have noticed: i don't talk like a christian. i mean exactly what i say, and dha understood me correctly. the "try" in that post was refering to trying to understand god.

i do not think being godlike, or even godhood itself is outside the realm of (eventual) human possibility. actually, i think it might be the reason we were created.

We try so hard to be perfect instead of admitting the impossibility of perfection.

i think god understands his creation. to think that god demands perfection of us is outrageous, unbiblical, and just plain blasphemous. think about what that says about god?

also, to think that perfect according to the standards that god does impose is impossible is just plain wrong. even in the old testament, god is very forgiving. david is called perfect, even after his sin with bathsheba.

god expects us to be what we are. if he made us flawed, he did so on purpose. our flaw is actually our beauty. it allows intelligence, morals, and above all free will. our decisions are meaningful.

all god wants is for us to make good decisions.


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Message 66 of 79 (193832)
03-23-2005 10:55 PM
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03-23-2005 10:41 PM


Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
god expects us to be what we are. if he made us flawed, he did so on purpose. our flaw is actually our beauty. it allows intelligence, morals, and above all free will. our decisions are meaningful.

all god wants is for us to make good decisions.

That's all GOD expects of anyone, Christian or Atheist.


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arachnophilia
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Message 67 of 79 (193838)
03-23-2005 11:07 PM
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03-23-2005 10:55 PM


Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
nexttime, i'll go on about the evils of organized religion, and how their goals conflict with that. i think god's a reasonable guy, and it's us that mess things up for ourselves.

are you familiar with the idea of the christian guilt complex? i might make a thread about it later.


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jar
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Message 68 of 79 (193839)
03-23-2005 11:15 PM
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03-23-2005 11:07 PM


Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
are you familiar with the idea of the christian guilt complex?

Growing up as the only Christian Family in a Jewish neighborhood in Baltimore you should ask that?


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arachnophilia
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Message 69 of 79 (193857)
03-24-2005 12:46 AM
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03-23-2005 11:15 PM


Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
possibly. we might be speaking of different things. this one really has nothing to do with outsiders; it's between the sinner and his god, combined with the messages preached in church.

also, i'm sure EVERY christian is aware of it, because to some degree it's integral to the religion. especially fundamentalism, in my experience. people just may not be aware they're doing it.

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Message 70 of 79 (193875)
03-24-2005 1:30 AM
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03-24-2005 12:46 AM


Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
If you're gonna learn GUILT you must learn from the MASTERs, and there is no greater master at teaching guilt than a Jewish Mother. It has nothing to do with outsiders, but rather a method of learning the 12th.Level Mysteries of Guilt. ;)


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arachnophilia
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Message 71 of 79 (193884)
03-24-2005 1:41 AM
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03-24-2005 1:30 AM


Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
oooooooh i get it! duh.

sorry, i completely forgot to read the cultural stereotype in there. my mistake.


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celestialGyoud
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Message 72 of 79 (193943)
03-24-2005 6:09 AM


on the candlestick
Hi Phatboy,

none of the words [quoted from the scriptures in the first posts of this thread] come to fit as "a place" not even the word "place" [in the manner that was used] does fit with a Word/access.

"..But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say,
** Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of G... is come nigh unto you.."

*******

Doth a candle come in to be put under a bushel, or under a bed? and not to be set on a candlestick?

How in the world can a person refer to the Total World/access making it sound as if the World/access was "a place" or "a city?

Zsafira.

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Message 73 of 79 (193952)
03-24-2005 6:30 AM
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03-24-2005 6:09 AM


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Message 74 of 79 (193984)
03-24-2005 8:29 AM
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03-23-2005 10:55 PM


Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
That's all GOD expects of anyone, Christian or Atheist.

How can god have any expectaion.


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Message 75 of 79 (193986)
03-24-2005 8:34 AM
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03-24-2005 8:29 AM


Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
How can god have any expectaion.

Lost me there. Can you help? What exactly are you questioning?


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