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Topic: For the Christians here: Why do the heathens rage?
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 16 of 79 (193294)
03-22-2005 9:19 AM
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Reply to: Message 7 by Phat
03-22-2005 5:07 AM
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Understanding GOD?
Arach, while I respect your scholarly pursuits of knowing God, I might ask you whether or not God can indeed be "figured out." I think there are a few seperate points in that sentence that may be worthy of consideration. First, Is the Bible GOD? Second, Is the Bible Christianity? Third, Is the goal to know GOD or to know as much as we can about GOD?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 17 of 79 (193297)
03-22-2005 9:25 AM
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Reply to: Message 8 by CK
03-22-2005 5:11 AM
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Re: immaturity
What's the success rate of the christians on here? - I make it 0%. What does that mean?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Do the Heathen Rage?
You seem to be implying that Christians are attacked here at EvC in some way. I have not found that to be the case. For example, going back over many threads I could not find an instant where anyone has raged against you for your beliefs. So the main question is, can you show any examples of "the Heathen Raging?"
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Do the Heathen Rage?
PG writes: quote:
jar asked:
So the main question is, can you show any examples of "the Heathen Raging?"
I'm laughing so hard I can't breathe. Once you get your breath back can you answer the question? Can you show any examples of the Heathen Raging?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 26 of 79 (193331)
03-22-2005 10:36 AM
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Reply to: Message 23 by CK
03-22-2005 10:26 AM
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Re: immaturity
As far as I can see all of the interactions from the christians here may lead to greater understanding but I've never seen any of the atheists shift from their basic positions. not an iota. Well, I'm not sure that is or should be a goal anyway. If I were here to sway folk to Christianity the only possible way I can see where there is a chance of success is through example. It also IMHO, mistates the goal and purpose of Christ and his message. From the records we do have, he seems to have been concerned with behavior. If someone behaves in a Christ like manner, whether or not there is any belief or acknowledgement of Jesus, GOD or Christianity, the world will be a better place.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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This is a great example.behavior, not ideology.
Find your recent admonition to MikeHager and recall your reason for admonishment. However, if you cannot see that Christians here are insulted on a regular basis, no kind of example will meet with your agreement. Request denied. You claim that Christians are being insulted. Yet when asked to provide examples, you refuse. PG, it's not your Christianity that is the issue, it's your total failure to even attempt to support any of your many charges and assertions.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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But once again, you provide NO evidence
Please reread your post. Once agin you have ridden in, tossed out a firebrand and then ridden off into the night.
It is my experience on this board that regardless of 'evidence' provided, the evidence is refused as such, and denied as such. That might be true but when no evidence is offered, how could anyone know?
That establishes a basis for going round and round and round, you say my example is NOT what I think it is, I say my example IS what I think it is. Could be but when no evidence is offered, how could anyone know?
I believe Christians fare poorly here, you believe they don't. As a Christian, I have never found I was treated poorly here except by Christians. You may well believe that but when no evidence is offered, how could anyone know?
Find yourself someone else who will engage you in circular discussion. Matters to me not what you think of me and my methods. I decide when enough is enough.
It is enough! So yet again, you make an unsupported assertion and when you are asked to provide support you simply refuse. Yet you are allowed to continue posting here. How is that an example of being treated poorly? What does your being a Christian have to do with it?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: But once again, you provide NO evidence
PG writes: quote:
jar writes:
Yet you are allowed to continue posting here.
Say the word. I'll await your decision. You would like that. Instead, I find it far more effective to simply point out that while you cry about being mistreated, you have NEVER provided any evidence or support for any of your assertions. In fact, you are being held to MUCH lower standards than other memebrs here at EvC. You have consistently been allowed to violate the guidelines. You have consistently been granted special treatment and consideration. The evidence for that is that you have been allowed in thread after thread to make assertions and when challenged, to continue without providing support or evidence. This very thread is evidence in support of that assertion. Instead of the Heathens Raging, they are being most kind and considerate of you, bending over backwards to grant you every opportunity, overlooking all of your transgressions, pardoning your offenses and granting you special status and privilege. It is obvious that the Heathen are behaving in a more Christian manner than you.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
god expects us to be what we are. if he made us flawed, he did so on purpose. our flaw is actually our beauty. it allows intelligence, morals, and above all free will. our decisions are meaningful. all god wants is for us to make good decisions. That's all GOD expects of anyone, Christian or Atheist.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
are you familiar with the idea of the christian guilt complex? Growing up as the only Christian Family in a Jewish neighborhood in Baltimore you should ask that?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
If you're gonna learn GUILT you must learn from the MASTERs, and there is no greater master at teaching guilt than a Jewish Mother. It has nothing to do with outsiders, but rather a method of learning the 12 th.Level Mysteries of Guilt. 
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 75 of 79 (193986)
03-24-2005 8:34 AM
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Reply to: Message 74 by tsig
03-24-2005 8:29 AM
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Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
How can god have any expectaion. Lost me there. Can you help? What exactly are you questioning?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 77 of 79 (194112)
03-24-2005 4:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 76 by tsig
03-24-2005 3:20 PM
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Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
How can god feel emotion? I don't know. See, that's a scientific question about a non-scientific critter.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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