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Author Topic:   Is ID Scientific? (was "Abusive Assumptions")
Ooook!
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Message 9 of 292 (194147)
03-24-2005 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by CK
03-24-2005 5:18 PM


"peer-reviewed book" - that's a new one on me?
"Yeah!! I showed it to a few of my mates, and they said it made sense"

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Ooook!
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Message 20 of 292 (194182)
03-24-2005 6:03 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by commike37
03-24-2005 5:41 PM


Also, look at Charles Knight and Ooook! Now that I've satisfied some of the users and posted some evidence, they think that my appropiate reward is to mock me for my efforts
You are being mocked because what you have presented is not what is being asked of you. Look at what PS asked you for. For example: don't produce a quote from a creationist website saying that ID is peer reviewed, actually produce the peer reviewed ID study.
If I can't quote evidence without this happening, why should I use evidence at all?
What you have presented is NOT evidence!!!
Please present how ID is a proper scientific theory. Which specific theory within ID has:
a) Proposed a testable hypothesis
b) Make an untested prediction
c) Tested that prediction
And can I at least have an admin or a mod weigh in on my first post?
LOL, ROTF, LMAO etc
Here speaks someone who has not gone through the normal topic submission procedure. Submit a proper topic!

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Ooook!
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Message 34 of 292 (194222)
03-24-2005 7:38 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by commike37
03-24-2005 6:28 PM


This is more of a complaint than a new topic.
Absolute garbage!
You wanted to have a moan about bias without having to comform to the constraints of scientific examination. You've stated your position: that it is abusive to dismiss ID off hand. I (and many others) have stated that it is fair to dismiss ID as 'scientific nothing' as long as it has never been shown to be scientific!!!
Time to step up to the plate and defend ID in the scientific forums.
And I thought I mentioned this earlier at "FAQ: Does intelligent design make predictions? Is it testable?"
No! You did not address the issue at all. You quoted something that claimed that ID was testable. State the hypothesis. State the predictions! Produce the tests! More importantly: produce this in a scientific forum so the claims can be examined like any other scientific claim
You continue the mocking attituted with the "LOL, ROTF, LMAO etc."
OK! Here's the deal: Accept that you have to produce evidence of scientific method if you want to have something accepted as scientific and I'll stop taking the mickey. If you want to stop the 'insulting' attitude to ID then show us why we are wrong to dismiss it as pseudo-scientific clap-trap. I'll ask you again - put your money where your mouth is!
What you have presented is NOT evidence!!!
Please present how ID is a proper scientific theory. Which specific theory within ID has
a) Proposed a testable hypothesis
b) Make an untested prediction
c) Tested that prediction
I don't like you think you can simply claim that all of this evidence is invalid with a blanket statement.
It's not a blanket statement, it is the way that science works. Don't agree with that? There are forums within this site to discuss it. Feel free to participate!

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