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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Non living things do not evolve. Thanks 1.*******. You just falsified evolution in one fell swoop. The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
...and from a car to a motorbike could definetly be done. Please explain. The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
It would take billions of billions of billions of mutations, slowly picking the ones that become more engine like (im assuming i get to have lots of pictures of engines sat next to me so i can tell which of my mutations are getting closer.) Then with enough time, i would imagine we'd be there. Cept maybe for a battery and fuel. Yes, and all those billions in the direction opposite of the direction things observed tend to go, i.e, into chaos. It'll all be a heap of rust before a hand full of mutations in the right direction occur. For example, size wise, the heap of rust is in the right direction sizewise but disastrous to the desired outcome. The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Could you please explain? How does the statement, "Non living things do not evolve. " Falsify evolution? Well, using the airplane analogy, the evolution airplane's gotta get off the ground before it flies. Like, the inorganic's gotta evolve into organic to begin with. The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Call it what you want, but it's gotta happen in the evolution process.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
You train them, by giving them a set of inputs and the outputs you want from them. Yes, ID at work, providing the equipment and setting up the process, creating the capability to accomplish the desired goal of the designer. The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
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[qs]no, it doesn't. look it up.[/q] No spontaneous generation.......no evolution......simple as that. The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
What does spontaneous generation mean exactly? Some will disagree, but I'll go with Gould and Huxley on that. Alleged spontaneous generation is the alleged genesis of evolution or biogenesis, i.e. bio-genesis, i.e. beginning of life spontaneously/randomly. Steven Gould of Harvard, one of the greatest evolutionists of the 20th century said:
Evolution comprises all the stages of the development of the universe: the cosmic, the biological, and human or cultural development. Attempts to restrict the concept of evolution to biology are gratuitous. Life is a product of the evolution of inorganic nature, and man is a product of the evolution of life. Julian Huxley said:
The concept of evolution was soon [after its appearance] extended into other than biological fields. Inorganic subjects such as the life-histories of the stars and the formation of the chemical elements on the one hand, and on the other hand subjects like linguistics, social athropology, and comparative law and religion, began to be studied from an evolutionary angle, until today we are enabled to see evolution as a universal and all pervading process. Furthermore, with the adoption of the evolutionary approach in non-biological fields, from cosmology to human affairs, we are beginning to realize that biological evolution is only one aspect to evolution in general. This message has been edited by buzsaw, 03-25-2005 06:46 PM The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Ofcourse, we know that men created and designed both bikes and motorbikes. So there's your designer for you. Hey Mike The Whiz, good bud from UK, good to have you posting again. Help us build up a Christian coalition here in town so as to keep these secularists busy and scatter their forces a bit. Yup, Mike, them bikes aintagona evolve engines and all that to make a motorized bike in a cajillion years without a smart mechanic and designer. No way! The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
This goes for everything aswell. Yes.......EVERYTHING....., not just motorbikes, is what the alleged submicroscopic speck of singularity space via the BB was suppose to randomly and naturally bring about to eventually exist. The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Hi Gnojek. There's one problematic little phrase in your post which allows your majority opinion here on this board no more clout than the minority view. Here it is:
could have existed Cheers! The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
and yes evolution covers all those areas but it's not a single unified theory. It all boils down to "Is there, or is there not a creator who designed the universe." Your argument can be sumarized in one word; secularism, no matter how much you try to segmentize it. Our argument takes two words; intelligent design, no matter how some care to segmentize it. The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Nonsequiture
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
every instance I know of where intelligence has intentionally interfered with the development of species to get a "designed" result, the purpose has been to make it a "better" food source ... Yah, I know what you mean, bud. Trouble is with some of the dog breeds, they've got the prices up so high, we're back to chicken and pork. The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Hi Rrhain. My point in all this was to refute the argument that spontaneous generation was not included in the process of evolution. The arguments of my counterparts in this is as silly as trying to argue that creation was not part of the process of intelligent design.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw
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