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Author Topic:   The split, dating, and God
simple 
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Message 1 of 4 (195795)
03-31-2005 3:27 PM


Bump from dino blood and bones. Because dating is a very important part of so many things, I will show here how the current thoughts on how it work need adjustment.
The last question on this arose here:
"I'm interested in your use of the word 'assumption' here. Yes, it is true that we are relying on constant rates of radioactive decay. But it's not like scientists have not tried to establish whether this is the case. Observations of distant supernovae, for example, show similar decay rates millions of years ago to those measured on Earth today. To get into this in detail is a little off topic, but you do realise that this 'assumption' has been tested and appears to be supported by evidence?"
Despite constant decay rates, if the whole process changed from something else that was not a decay process, then the current decay is limited in application to the past. One reads of very different conditions in the bible, where eternal life was in place, rather than the way it now works, I propose, after the fall when death entered the physical universe. Because the spiritual aspect was sperated, leaving only the physical, I call it the 'split'. This applied all through the universe, so the far away deacy, or even the light we have was affected. If one does not accept spiritual evidence of any kind, nor the bible, nor healings, fulfilled prophesies, etc. etc, then one would not be able to either prove the idea right or wrong.
Therefore the present decay rates were constant from the time they came into existance. This was at the split, before which a spiritual affected process was there. The 'merge' will come, when heaven comes, etc, and the physical only universe will forever cease to exist, and it will again be the physical/spiritual complete universe. I have discussed the aspects of the split in some detail about light, and lightspeed on other threads. So this one would mostly be about dating.
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03-31-2005 3:45 PM
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03-31-2005 3:27 PM


I made some formatting changes to message 1.
Per the actual content - I personally don't really know what to make of it. It seems to be some odd mixture of faith and science. I guess I must defer to the opinions of the other admins, on what to do about this topic.
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Message 3 of 4 (195812)
03-31-2005 3:54 PM
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Personally I think the thread is nonsense. Unless simple is prepared to offer some evidence that there ever was a split or that conditions such as decay rates did vary in the past I think it is a waste of time promoting it; just another gold or diamond core of the earth fiction.

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simple 
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Message 4 of 4 (195819)
03-31-2005 4:11 PM
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03-31-2005 3:54 PM


Rejected and closed on 1/22/06 - Adminnemooseus
quote:
Unless simple is prepared to offer some evidence that there ever was a split or that conditions such as decay rates did vary in the past
Well, the evidence is of a spiritual nature.
We do know that the bible says that the sun, for example will last forever. This means the present process could not be in effect for long. If it were the sun would, they say eventually burn out. In a simolar way, we can look into the past, where death only entered the world at a certain point. So we have a window of time, in the order of several thousand years where the present processes, including decay, can exist. They cannot exist out of this timeframe, and do so only in imagination!
There are evidences of an unseen power that most men recognize. There is also some evidence of these things, in the form of witnesses, and healings, and other things.
So there is evidence, but not of the kind that science is yet in a position, or willing to accept. But no physical evidence we do have could prove otherwise.
So if I have to simply declare victory, by reason of censorship, I will. If you want to give people a chance to contest the idea, here is the one chance.
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