Right wing conservatives are evil? Well, I have evidence that they are.

Lets assume for the sake of argument that I was bisexual. Lets assume that (again for the sake of argument) I hit on you. What am I hitting on you for? What is my motive?Lets flip it. What if you were hitting on me. What could you hope to gain? What don't you feel that you have that I have?As for Jesus....why can't He fullfill any of these needs??This message has been edited by Phatboy, 04-03-2005 12:23 AM

Phatboy you should add some sort of notice when you edit a message in any substantive way. This post was originally much different. As it happens, your first draft of this message was much better. It was brief and to the point. This one wanders and doesn't have the same bite.

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Keep America Safe AND Free!

I edited the bite because I was tired of getting bit! I don't like the idea of humans as food! I am trying to get along with Rrhain. Lord give me strength! Help me to respect this guy.As for you berberry, it is annoying to have you psychoanalyse me.And what about Jesus? Was He a "bisexual" who never acted on either sex? After all, He suffered EVERY affliction common to all people...so He may have known about being attracted to everyone.We can imagine, however, that Jesus never allowed the thoughts to remain in his mind. He loved God totally and never had time to get too attracted to any woman or man.This message has been edited by Phatboy, 04-03-2005 12:38 AM

So do you play the banjo now?

How about this. If I promise to you that I will become a devout christian IFF you sleep with me, would you do it knowing you've just saved a soul?

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As for you berberry, it is annoying to have you psychoanalyse me.

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That wasn't my intention. But as long as bisexuality is a possibility, then the possibility that you are one who indeed gets to make a choice has to be mentioned.The standard argument I use against people who think that homosexuality is a choice wouldn't work if the person I was arguing with was bisexual precisely because those people really do get to make a choice. That was the only thing I was driving at. I didn't mean to get too personal.ADDED IN EDIT: Forgot about this line:

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I object to the notion that homosexuality is an affliction. I hope that's not really what you meant.This message has been edited by berberry, 04-03-2005 01:57 AM

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Actually, you are asking this question to Jesus Christ. He would sleep beside you, but you would be unable or unwilling to act out in any fashion upon His body. He would fill your heart and soul with love and you would feel as if you were a child sleeping with his Daddy but nothing sexual would come of it...nor would there be any need.Troy---I'm not trying to preach to you. I am being quite serious.
Think of it like one of your nephews wanting to sleep with you. They would only seek to cuddle and love you....as you would do with the Lord.And if it were me...(God would definitely have to set that one up)
I snore and I would probably take all the covers. This message has been edited by Phatboy, 04-03-2005 07:04 AM

I mean't that it is an emotional need for you. Much like food. I am not suggesting that it is a curse. More like an itch that you need to scratch.

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So I want to know: What type of man are you "choosing" not to be with?

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I've never given it much thought, Rrhain!

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How can you possibly make a choice about something you've never thought about?

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You actually think that I check guys out like that?

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You're the one saying you chose. Therefore, you must. In order for you to "choose" not to be gay, you must "choose" not to act upon those very real sexual desires and urges for people of your own sex.So tell us what they are.

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Some of my friends may be gay, but I would never know for sure because we never discuss such over the top topics.

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Non sequitur.This isn't about your friends nor about the accuracy of your gaydar. This is about what kind of man you find attractive. Is it this kind of man?Or is it this kind?Maybe it's this kind:Too hairy? OK...So spit it out. You "chose" not to be gay, so tell us what kind of man you are "choosing" not to be gay with. What kind of man would you be gay with if you chose to be gay?What are you waiting for?Hmmm...Seems Jude Law's picture stopped being shown. Found another to replaceThis message has been edited by Rrhain, 04-03-2005 06:27 AM

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WWJD? JWRTFM!

This guy has all of your guys beat: This message has been edited by Phatboy, 04-03-2005 02:26 AMThis message has been edited by Phatboy, 04-03-2005 03:06 AM

Phatboy...um...you want to have sex with the Pope?You do realize that he's dead, yes?You're a necrophiliac?No, I'm not joking. I asked you what kind of man you want to have sex with and you responded by saying the Pope.So you like defrocking priests, eh? Something about the cassock gets you erect, does it?Stop jerking around and answer the question honestly.If you were to choose to be gay, what sort of man would you choose to be with.What kind of man cause you to get an erection? What kind of man makes you want to get naked and to do things with him that would bring the two of you to orgasm?I'm quite serious. That is, if you're being serious about you choosing....

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And I am quite seriously insulted! Stop pushing this, Rrhain.You may yet see the evil wrath of THIS conservative!For you claiming to be such a civilized guy, you have a very (edited) mind when it comes to sex. I don't think the way that you think and I do not choose to speculate.For want of a better explanation, your suggestions are annoying.
Makes me want to smack you upside the head!I sure don't need my kids being taught about your suggestive alternative lifestyles!(and no,Berberry I'm not talking about "gays".I'm aiming directly at Rrhain on THIS one!)I appologize to everyone else EXCEPT Rrhain for my outburst. He wanted to get a rise out of me and he did!Now....IF WE CAN...please get back to the topic. The topic is NOT about sex! edited to be niceThis message has been edited by Phatboy, 04-03-2005 08:21 AM

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And I am quite seriously insulted!

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So how do you think gay people feel when you say that they "chose" to be gay? If you feel that you have every right to tell other people that their sexuality, their love and devotion and emotion and caring and concern, was just some frivolous plaything that they carelessly threw away, then you should expect the same thing in kind.So answer the question already.If you chose not to be gay, what sort of man would you like to have an orgasm with but choose not to?

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Stop pushing this, Rrhain.

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Then stop being such a prick. How dare you tell others that they don't know why they fell in love. How dare you tell others that they don't feel as deeply as you. How dare you mock other people with your holier than thou crap as if you could possibly understand what another person's love and devotion is.

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For you claiming to be such a civilized guy, you have a very infantile and pagan mind when it comes to sex.

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Pagan?The reason I respond in this "infantile" manner is that you are behaving like an infant. Everything is about you. You know how everbody is supposed to feel. You know that gay people aren't really responding to their real feelings. They're simply "choosing."So time to test that little claim of yours. If you "chose" not to be gay, what sort of man are you "choosing" not to ejaculate with?

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For want of a better explanation, your suggestions are annoying.

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Don't care. Answer the question.What sort of man makes you cream your pants? What sort of man makes you want to bend over and let him have his way with you ten ways to Sunday?

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Makes me want to smack you upside the head!

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I dare you. As a much better author than I put it, "Thou art essentially a natural coward without instinct."

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I sure don't need my kids being taught about your little prissy alternative lifestyles!

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And what is "alternative" about my lifestyle, do tell? You seem to know all about it. So enlighten us all. Am I gay? Straight? Bi? Maybe I'm asexual. Am I married? Single? In a group? When was the last time I had sex? What sort of person do I find attractive? When I have sex, assuming that I do, how do I do it? Do I like kissing? Is oral sex my favorite? Maybe I like toys.You know so much about it, you tell the story.

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Now....IF WE CAN...please get back to the topic. The topic is NOT about sex!

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(*blink!*)Are you out of your tiny little mind?Homo[I][B]SEXUALITY[/i][/b] isn't about sex? Hetero[I][B]SEXUALITY[/i][/b] isn't about sex?How on earth can anybody talk about sexuality without talking about sex? Oh, there's other aspects to sexuality beyond sex, that's true, but if you don't actually have any sort of sexual desire to go along with those other feelings, then you're "just friends" and we aren't talking about sexuality.You said you chose not to be gay.So what kind of man do you fantasize about covered in your jism but you "choose" not to pursue?You're the one saying that gay people "chose" to be gay. How do you think that sounds to them?And the most ironic thing of it is that at this very moment, Sondheim's Passion is on PBS. THAT is what you're telling gay people they don't understand, Phatboy. THAT is the passion and devotion and ultimate giving of one's body and soul that you claim gay people don't really appreciate.They simply "choose" to be gay. It isn't real. It isn't true.And you and your tiny, fragile ego get into a huff because I ask you what turns your crank?Grow up, you disgusting little worm. You have no soul, you foul, pathetic creature. How dare I? How dare you!

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WWJD? JWRTFM!

Phat, what does one's political leanings (liberal or conservative) have to do with if one views homosexuality positively or negatively?

Your entire message was fine up until the last line, where you crossed the line: Stop the personal attack, please, or risk further action by Admin.