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mike the wiz
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Message 1 of 24 (196389)
04-03-2005 10:33 AM


I'd like to know if anyone knows as to whether Ron Wyatt's "Mt Sinai" site has been investigated. This is NOT a topic about Wyatt's credibility. That is for the specific reason that I genuinely require the truth as to whether it is possible that this site in Arabia is the real Mt. Sinai.
A column was found with inscription in archaic Hebrew , and the site has apprently many evidences including an altar with a petroglyph of a golden calf;
With so many instances matching up withe the biblical account, is there anything in this? I'm interested in other possible Sinai sites other than the traditional place. Surely these photographs aren't fake? Or maybe taken somewhere else? WHy the Hebrew writing? Why the altar and twelve pillars? And the locals knowing it to mean the place of Moses? (according to website)
It seems I've been told there was no evidence of any Exodus or Hebrews coming from Egypt, but is this evidence of dwellings? What is it evidence of? We are obviously looking at something here are we not?
Ron Wyatt museum writes:
there was no doubt as to the location of Mt. Sinai being in Arabia.
Here is the location for the "real" Sinai site. (according to the site)
Ron Wyatt museum writes:
If we go the Bible, the location of Mt. Sinai is not that difficult to ascertain. When God first spoke to Moses regarding the great work of leading the people out of their Egyptian bondage, He told Moses:
" Certainly I will be with thee; and this shall be a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, ye shall serve God upon this mountain."
.......EXODUS 3:12
To find out exactly where Moses was when this conversation took place, we need to go to the beginning of chapter 3:
"Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb. And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed."
.......EXODUS 3:1-2
Moses was even told to remove his shoes, as he was standing on "holy ground" (verse 5). So, we now know that Moses was in Midian, in the "backside of the desert", which seems to us to imply the area opposite the main portion of the desert or, the other side of the mountain which provided the border of the desert. We make this assumption simply because in order to have a "backside of the desert", there must be something which marks a separation of the "frontside" and the "backside".
When Ron studied the Biblical account, he noted these references - that the mountain to which Moses was to lead the people was in Midian; and that the place where Moses spoke to God in the burning bush was specifically stated to be in the "backside of the desert". With this information, along with the discovery of the crossing site on the Gulf of Aqaba, he looked for a mountain on the eastern side of the gulf which fit this description. There was only one candidate in his opinion, and this was Jebel el Lawz.
Now Ron enters Saudi Arabia thus;
And Moses wrote all the words of the LORD, and rose up early in the morning, and builded an altar under the hill, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel.
.......EXODUS 24:4
Sinai site, with evidences;
List of evidences;
A = Saudi Guard House
B = Altar with Petroglyphs
C = Remains of 12 Pillars
D = Large Altar at the foot of Mt. Sinai
e = Red Lines mark Wells
e = Aqua Lines mark Stone Fences
Hut circles
Altar and Corral
Located directly beneath, or
"under" the high peak of Sinai
Here is the story
This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 04-03-2005 09:35 AM
Edited by AdminJar to size pictures.
This message has been edited by AdminJar, 04-03-2005 09:44 AM

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mike the wiz
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Message 3 of 24 (196424)
04-03-2005 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminJar
04-03-2005 12:24 PM


Re: Mike, where do you want these chesnuts placed?
I would say miscellaneous or bible forum. Wherever you think best.
I know the Wyatt stuff is done, but I promise I'm more interested in the Arabia claim, and the real Sinai.

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mike the wiz
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Message 6 of 24 (196438)
04-03-2005 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by jar
04-03-2005 12:46 PM


Re: The petroglyphs ...
Thanks for those amazing picture Jar.
Would you say that these petroglphs were from other people in the are, of other religion that pre-date any Exodus?
I understand why you would call this Wyatt's fantasy, and I thought the pictures shown were a bit selective, but what about the Hebrew inscriptions and other factors? The twelve pillars, and the picture showing and explaining the whole site, apparently as told of in the bible?
Please feel free to produce any juicy pics. Do you know of any other possible Sinai sites? (my knowledge is zero )

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mike the wiz
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Message 8 of 24 (196445)
04-03-2005 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by jar
04-03-2005 1:04 PM


Re: The petroglyphs ...
Thanks.
I like the petroglyphs, but especially I desire the Ark of the covenant. Do you know where it is, can I have a look at it?
What really excites me is Jewish ancients writings, inscriptions that actually mention Yahweh. These aren't proves, but they show the history of Judaism, and this fascinates me.
I suppose your point about them bein around the place a lot is valid. This was the fundamental flaw with Ron's Ark shaped (Noah's)natural phenomenon. I felt I'd been lied to when the guys at EvC infact shown me that there are many ark-shaped natural anomolies.
So am I spotting a consistent failure to divulge the full information?

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