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Minnemooseus
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Message 143 of 157 (167242)
12-11-2004 6:40 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by Minnemooseus
12-07-2004 2:35 AM


Re: At the "Fringe Science" forum
I have come to think that SaltbeGood=Whatever.
Moose

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Message 145 of 157 (197114)
04-05-2005 10:43 PM


John A. Davison and Terry agree only that "Darwinism" is wrong
Submitted for your potential amusement:
I've recently started the John A. Davison and Terry agree only that "Darwinism" is wrong topic at Terry's Talk Origins.
Essentially, this is a parallal thread to the Who to believe , Ham or Ross? topic.
In that context, John A. Davison is (more or less) a "Rossite" while Terry is a "Hamite". Despite the gulf between, they refuse to debate their relative positions.
It's currently at message 5. I have hopes that "The Great Society" will chip in soon.
I'm keeping copies of the topic messages, to guard against deletions.
So far, JAD has trotted out the "Darwinian mystics" phrase, and Terry has vaguely likened "Darwinism" to "vodooism". I have vaguely turned the "voodoism" phrase back against him. We shall see if this topic gets me banned there.
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham

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Minnemooseus
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Message 147 of 157 (197121)
04-05-2005 11:06 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by crashfrog
04-05-2005 10:49 PM


Re: John A. Davison and Terry agree only that "Darwinism" is wrong
It is not so much that Terry supports JAD's position, but that Terry finds supporting JAD's position to somehow be a support to his own position. After all, I believe JAD still considers himself to be a (non-Darwinian) old Earth evolutionist.
JAD neither supports or contests Terry's position. Like I said there, they operate purely on the "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" line of reasoning.
I pay attention to the topics I started. I lightly follow a few others. I ignore most of the topics.
If it weren't for "The Great Society", I would pobably find that site be worthless. I wonder if "TGS" lurks somewhere here at .
Moose
{Edited to change ID}
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Message 150 of 157 (283944)
02-04-2006 3:36 PM


Mining a new topic from Terry's Talk Origins
Please see message 1 at the topic Lack of transitionals.
The above in turn cites this.
I thought this has the makings for a good new topic, but I don't feel up to starting it myself. Any volunteers?
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

  
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Message 151 of 157 (289415)
02-22-2006 1:28 AM


Moose has gotten involved in yet another topic at TTO
Scientist proves mountains are younger than claimed previously. Should get you to the first page of messages.
This will get you to the last page of messages, regardless of how many messages have been posted.
Use the "previous" or "next" links at the page bottoms to get to the other pages. Topic is currently at message 34.
Also note my little topic drift control effort at message 29, and Terry's response at message 30.
Somehow, Terry's logical processes have reminded me of the fearsome creature in "The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy". You know, the one that you can hide from by putting a towel over your head. The creature figures that if you can't see him, then he must not be able to see you.
There's the Twilight Zone, and then there's the Terry Zone.
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

  
Minnemooseus
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Message 152 of 157 (359551)
10-28-2006 8:11 PM


Gogonasus Fish topic at Terry's Talk Origins
Gogonasus Fish topic at Terry's Talk Origins
Topic is currently at 9 messages. The above link will get you to the most recent messages page. You may need to explore back to see the earlier messages.
It's not obvious which messages are replies to which messages, but I'll quote a few of them.
The Great Society, at message 4 writes:
You're free to make whatever misrepresentation that suits your fancy.
I just have to wonder why God chose to be so ardently thorough in filling in fish to amphibian transitions? Why is it God so loved the evolutionists that He gave them Gogonasus, rhipidistian lungfish, acanthostega, icthyostega, and the hoary host of devonian fish to amphibian transitions?
What has God got against the creationists that He cannot at least hide or supress such fossils, or include a few cenozoic fossils in paleozoic strata?
Terry (aka AmPaTerry), at message 7 writes:
ONE transitional form from fish to amphibian is evidence for evolution, TGS.
A dozen is evidence against it, by showint that they are not actually transitionals -
Unles you care to claim that fish evolved into amphibians over and over and over again - - - ?
Which begs the question of the mechanism that would cause such a thing -
Terry
Mind boggling!
The Great Society, at message 8 writes:
A dozen simply fill in sequences along the way. Gogonasus is a fish, not an amphibian, but probably more amphibian-like than the rhipidistian fish from which it likely evolved.
What you seem to be saying is that if we have:
A E L, evolution is proven, but if we have:
A B C D E F G H I J K L, then it is disproven.
But then I hear plenty of other folks complain that although we have the primary intermediaries between A & L, we still lack intermediaries between A & B, so we cannot really surmise B evolved from A.
I repeat, from Terry's message: 1 transitional = evidence for evolution, many transitionals = evidence against evolution.
I wonder what 0 transitionals would mean? I would think good evidence for creationism. 1 transitional? - Maybe God wanted to created a kind in the middle.
Moose
Edited by Minnemooseus, : "ApPaTerry" to "AmPaTerry". He considers himself to be a great "American Patriot".

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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Minnemooseus
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Message 153 of 157 (407583)
06-26-2007 10:09 PM


Moose had (foolishly?) got himself invoved at Terryland again
In regards to a (June 1-3, 2007?) Gallup poll:
Two thirds of Americans are creationists.
The (more or less) raw data is at Science and Nature.
Strangely enough, one part of the poll sure seems to indicate that 66% of those polled are YECs.
Moose
Added by edit: As always, the MSN group link goes to the most recent page. Right now this is only 3 messages and 1 page. My message is message 2.
Edited by Minnemooseus, : See above.

  
Minnemooseus
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Message 156 of 157 (416493)
08-16-2007 12:45 AM


Minnemooseus at Terry's Talk Origins
Well, I've become somewhat active there. Maybe someone else would like to join me there.
The topics I've currently involved in (link will go to page with most recent messages) are:
Them That Can. My most recent (only?) messages are 7 and 12.
Two thirds of Americans are creationists -. My most recent message is number 25. I'm think I've also posted upthread.
More Rapid Canyon Carving. I've just reactivated this topic with message 92. I've also posted quite a few upthread.
Most convincing evidence for creation theory. My most recent message is number 18. I also posted a string of messages upthread. I'm currently trying for some sort of old Earth evolutionist alliance with John A. Davison (see context before saying "You're crazy"). JAD has actually been clashing with the YEC's there. He is an "old Earther", and I do think that YECism fails right from the "young" part of YEC. I know that that is also JAD's position.
Comments, suggestions, etc.?
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Nixon was a professional politician, and I despised everything he stood for ” but if he were running for president this year against the evil Bush-Cheney gang, I would happily vote for him." - Hunter S. Thompson
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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