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Author Topic:   If god has a plan, then doesn't that make prayer worthless?
StormWolfx2x
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Message 61 of 63 (198859)
04-13-2005 5:05 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by Nicked
04-12-2005 5:50 PM


noted and changed.
The reason the logic doesn't directly answer the question posted by the thread topic is because people have pointed out that prayer is not worthless, as it serves to build a "relationship with god", relive stress, act as a time for reflection exe..... so the answer to the original topic was found a long time ago to be no, but the condition of praying to ask for things still remains which is why I altered my orignal post to something that was a litlle less short sighted.
also I meant further posts along people who were responding to me, I don't have the power nor the desire to stop the conversations other people are having.

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Gabe Webb
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Message 62 of 63 (199551)
04-15-2005 10:00 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by StormWolfx2x
04-04-2005 1:36 AM


I like to think of prayer and God's plan more of a control issue.
God gave us free will, therefeore he's not often going to do something without our consent or our asking.
He's essentially tying his own hands behind his back to judge how holy his creation really is - if He spent all his time working miracles and plopping Jesuses down in every major city, of course we'd all be Christians.
Instead He gives us to choice to be righteous or non-righteous. Prayer is like a confirmation of that choice.
I guess; after all, I'm no theogist..

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Message 63 of 63 (199557)
04-15-2005 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by Phat
04-10-2005 2:30 PM


Re: the anthropomorphic Almighty
quote:
Gods plan is to give us a choice that we can accept if we are willing to give up our sturbborn idea that we know the answer.
So, God will save the Agnostics?
Sweet!
This message has been edited by schrafinator, 04-15-2005 09:14 AM

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