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Author Topic:   Is it intelligent to design evolvable species?
Andya Primanda
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Message 1 of 96 (199537)
04-15-2005 9:30 AM


I get the idea to ask this question from a recent entry in the Panda's Thumb. Someone said in a feedback, that we should ask the ID people if they consider evolution as evidence of intelligent design. After some thinking, it made perfect sense to me.
On to the question, for everyone evo and cre and those too ambiguous to be pigeonholed into any of the two:
Do you think it is intelligent to design species that can evolve? Surely, an intelligent designer would be able to design lineages of animals, plants, bacteria etc. that responds to changes in the environment, so that the intelligent designer don't have to say "Duh! The giraffes or insert other intelligently designed creature of your choice here went extinct because of a 1 degree temperature rise again! Oh well, back to the drawing board."
Personally I think it is more intelligent to design things that can evolve. But I want to know your views.
Mighty admins, this can go to the ID forum, please.

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Andya Primanda
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Message 21 of 96 (199860)
04-17-2005 9:14 AM


Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm still waiting for the real IDists though.
The thing is, I've been thinking of the damage creationists make to the term 'creation' and 'design'. The scientists of the past made great advances when they start to acknowledge that organisms were not created by 'poof' magic, but through a natural process. I think it was Ken Miller who quoted a priestess (or a scientist, can't remember) as saying that God is not like a pool player that needs ten shots to sink ten balls, but more like one that sinks all ten in just one shot.
Along came creationists and IDists (who never want to be called creationists) and suddenly they want the ten-shot pool player back, for no reason. Probably it has something to do with the book they consult for everything.
In short, if I were to be asked for an evidence for Intelligent Design, I would say that evolvability is intelligent design. Humans are just beginning to incorporate evolvability into technology. Nature does it 3.5 billion years ago.
Then again, what prevents IDists from admitting that evolvability is intelligent design?
ps: To Oooook:
London... it's great. And expensive. And best viewed from the top of a red double-decker bus

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