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mikehager Member (Idle past 6487 days) Posts: 534 Joined: |
Yes, your scheme sounds dogmatic. Why? Because, to me, the Bible is not a fairy tale like the rest of the books of mythological importance. I think the Bible talks to me, and I talk back to it through my life. That's nice that you think that. Can you show evidence that your belief is factual? Of course not.
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Specter Inactive Member |
Scheme? Proof? I see nothing wrong with being a christian.
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mikehager Member (Idle past 6487 days) Posts: 534 Joined: |
Of course there is nothing wrong with being a Christian. Believe what you will.
When you make claims about what you believe, there can be no debate... you are the only authority in that. When anyone makes a claim of fact about reality, then evidence is required to support the fact. You claim that all other mythologies are fairy tales but yours is not. That's a claim of objective fact. Care to back it up? That's what I was saying you can't do, because I have seen the effort made time and again (here and elsewhere) and it has invariably failed.
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Specter Inactive Member |
You want proof that it actually happened? Dare to research Pliny's notes on Christianity? Herod Aggripa's notes? How about the cessar's notes? You really shouldn't ask for proof so persistently. Goodbye for now.
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mikehager Member (Idle past 6487 days) Posts: 534 Joined: |
You really shouldn't ask for proof so persistently. Why not? The fact that you can't provide it? That's not a good enough reason for me.
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Specter Inactive Member |
Take that back! I challenge you to go to this websites and check out the proof!
Jeff Lowder Jury Chap5 » Internet Infidels (And no, the "infidels" in the URL have nothing to do with 'infidel', the noun we find in our dictionary.)
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1260 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
quote: God is much deeper than that.
quote: What fact? there are no facts. The difference is you think your beliefs are better than his. The reasoning you use to know this is irrevelant. But your reasoning is flawed. You're living life looking through a needle. You have been ignoring what is real. I describe it to you, I can't show you. Don't pull me into a demon argument, I don't like when ppl get oppressed thats why I responded. It's not faith. I'm on this plane of thought that you havent reached yet because you got distracted. This message has been edited by chris simon porteus jr, 04-19-2005 03:33 PM This message has been edited by chris simon porteus jr, 04-19-2005 03:34 PM
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CK Member (Idle past 4148 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
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This message has been edited by General Krull, 19-Apr-2005 03:57 PM
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1487 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
What fact? "God exists" is a claim of fact. "I believe that God exists" is a different kind of claim. The first is not allowed to go unchallenged without evidence. The second is allowed to do so because no evidence for or aganst it could exist.
God is much deeper than that. So deep, in fact, that he's beyond the access of the rational mind? Well, how convinient for you.
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mikehager Member (Idle past 6487 days) Posts: 534 Joined: |
God is much deeper than that. So you say. Why should I believe it?
What fact? there are no facts. Faith and Mike The Wiz both made claims of fact based on nothing but their opinion. That's what I was responding to.
The difference is you think your beliefs are better than his. No, I think my beliefs more accurately reflect the way the world really is. The reason I think that is I go with fact, not opinion. If that is your criteria for better, fine. It isn't mine.
It's not faith. I'm on this plane of thought that you havent reached yet because you got distracted. This is both wrong and insulting. Because you can't look beyond yourself, you are somehow beyond me, and I presume anyone who disagrees with you? That is utterly foolish. I was a theist. If your picture is recent, I was a theist when I was your age. I left your mindset behind, because I saw it's flaws. So, it isn't that I haven't reached it, it's that I have moved past it.
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Asgara Member (Idle past 2323 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: |
Hi Specter,
Are you sure you really want to post a link to Internet Infidel's Secular Web concerning McDowell's "proof"? You are aware that this is a secular website and the page you link to is a rebuttal of McDowell's book right? And yes, the infidels in the URL very much has to do with the noun you find in your dictionary. From their home page:
Welcome! The Secular Web is a website operated by the Internet infidels, a nonprofit educational organization dedicated to defending and promoting a naturalistic worldview on the Internet. Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" select * from USERS where CLUE > 0 http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1260 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
quote: You have no idea what I was talking about.
quote: No, actually it's quite frustrating, I've only been learning to cope with this.
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1260 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
quote: I wouldn't be able to convince you. It is an experience, a metamorphosis, a coming of age thing, it is reaching the farthest depths of the human mind, its hard, you have to think and be blessed into a good position. You didn't see what I see. If you were able to see an existence then not see an existence it is only a limited picture. Tell me a flaw because I don't see one.
quote: Again, what fact. There are no facts.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1487 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
No, actually it's quite frustrating Here's a hint. That's the smarter part of your mind telling you "this is bullshit."
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1260 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
hahaha
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