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coffee_addict
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Message 16 of 31 (201743)
04-24-2005 1:24 PM
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04-24-2005 1:22 PM


Oh really? So what form of logic do you deal with?

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Message 17 of 31 (201747)
04-24-2005 1:26 PM
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04-24-2005 1:24 PM


I deal with human logic.
and reason
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coffee_addict
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Message 18 of 31 (201750)
04-24-2005 1:31 PM
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04-24-2005 1:26 PM


What are the premises that human logic has? What are the bases for it? Who studied them and how were they created?

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Message 19 of 31 (201754)
04-24-2005 1:34 PM
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04-24-2005 1:31 PM


I can't give you the answers you are looking for. I don't think you're making a fool out of me because I don't need to know your text book answer. I observe people. That's my study of human logic to see what the majority of people are living for, it is sad. I like to see the decisons ppl come to and their reasoning, their logic.

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Message 20 of 31 (201756)
04-24-2005 1:37 PM


EVERYBODY
Let's try to make this civil AND constructive.
Quit the inqusition. Quit the "I choose to look deeper" responses.
Those who would mentor, mentor. Use kindness and consideration.
Those who would learn, listen. Ask questions and take this as an opportunity to use the knowledge being offered to you.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 21 of 31 (201760)
04-24-2005 1:41 PM
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04-24-2005 1:34 PM


quote:
I can't give you the answers you are looking for. I don't think you're making a fool out of me because I don't need to know your text book answer. I observe people. That's my study of human logic to see what the majority of people are living for, it is sad. I like to see the decisons ppl come to and their reasoning, their logic.
The thing is, Chris, people have to be taught logic, and even many of the smartest people find it difficult.
Logical thought does not come naturally to humans at all. We are very curious, emotional creatures for which "good enough" reasoning has worked in most cases through most of our evolution.
Make sure you are not using the word "logic" to be synonymous with "reasoning".
Logic has a mathematical basis, whereas human reasoning doesn't have to.
Human reasoning can be, and often is, very, very logically flawed.

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coffee_addict
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Message 22 of 31 (201763)
04-24-2005 1:45 PM
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04-24-2005 1:34 PM


I'm just trying to understand what you think logic is. You can help me by telling me about it. By simply saying, "this is logical... that is logical..." won't help me one bit. You have to explain your train of thought to me.

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Message 23 of 31 (201766)
04-24-2005 2:01 PM
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04-24-2005 1:41 PM


That's how I speak as your human logic is your reasoning. I don't see a problem in speaking like that because when ppl say "that doesnt make sense" they are basing that on their reasoning on what they think is logical.

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coffee_addict
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Message 24 of 31 (201772)
04-24-2005 2:09 PM
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04-24-2005 2:01 PM


chris writes:
they are basing that on their reasoning on what they think is logical.
True, but they would have to explain why they don't think it is logical, in layman's terms at least. Imagine this. If I were to say, "it is perfectly logical that you are a bot instead of a real person behind a computer..." you would want me to explain why I think that rather than just accepting my words at face value.
So, again, you have to explain to us how your logic work.

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Message 25 of 31 (201775)
04-24-2005 2:11 PM
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04-24-2005 2:09 PM


I think I've made a good reflection of my logic in recent posts.

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coffee_addict
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Message 26 of 31 (201781)
04-24-2005 2:20 PM
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04-24-2005 2:11 PM


You don't wanna know what I think of your recent posts.

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Message 27 of 31 (201784)
04-24-2005 2:21 PM
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04-24-2005 2:20 PM


:0

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coffee_addict
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Message 28 of 31 (201815)
04-24-2005 2:47 PM
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04-24-2005 2:21 PM


Like AP said, let's see one on philosophy. I swear, I will only use science if it directly contradict what we know... like the spherical shape of the Earth. This should be interesting.

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Message 29 of 31 (201817)
04-24-2005 2:49 PM
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04-24-2005 2:47 PM


?

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Message 30 of 31 (201818)
04-24-2005 2:51 PM
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04-24-2005 2:47 PM


why should i discuss philosophy in general, get moose to accept my one sentence op and i'll discuss

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