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contracycle
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Message 1 of 38 (202918)
04-27-2005 5:54 AM


Jar wrote:
quote:
Remember, part of the training of all Good Commie Agitators is to create situations where the power of the state is brought down upon the very people supporting it. They are good at this. It is their sole weapon (other than creating terror).
If you let a Commie Agitator trick you into crossing the line while he remains safely straddling, it is you who get's hammered.
1 This is an outright lie.
2 Its a deliberate and vicious attack on my character and motives
3 It serves as excuse for failing to address the points I raise.
Please respond to this blatant and outright abuse.

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Alexander
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Message 2 of 38 (202920)
04-27-2005 5:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by contracycle
04-27-2005 5:54 AM


This is so funny. This guy takes online forums way, way too seriously.

'Most temperate in the pleasures of the body, his passion was for glory only, and in that he was insatiable.'

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contracycle
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Message 3 of 38 (202921)
04-27-2005 6:07 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by contracycle
04-27-2005 5:54 AM


quote:
I thought you might have learned. Attacking the messenger is not going to be allowed.
This is all the more hypocritical as Jar has the arrogance to say elsewhere: "I thought you might have learned. Attacking the messenger is not going to be allowed."
Edit: And of course the nonsensical furore over Wikipedia demonstrates again that attacking the messenger is to be condoned.
This message has been edited by contracycle, 04-27-2005 06:12 AM

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contracycle
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Message 4 of 38 (202922)
04-27-2005 6:11 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Alexander
04-27-2005 5:58 AM


quote:
This is so funny. This guy takes online forums way, way too seriously.
No, I take INSULTS quite seriously.
I also take consistency seriously, and the administration of this board is hopelessly inconsistent. And its getting worse.
Supporting your argument is a basic element for which Arachnophilia should be held to account. Acknowledging the existance of rival theories is a basic step for which RAZD should be held to account.
And yet *I* am on the recieving end of this abuse. It is a complete sham, while racist attacks are ignored. I am asking the moderators to get their act together, behave consistently, and to refrain from indulging in the same abuses they claim to condemn.

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Alexander
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Message 5 of 38 (202923)
04-27-2005 6:14 AM
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04-27-2005 6:11 AM


Yeah, they are inconsistent, but it's still the best forum I've come across to date.
Edited to add: Racist? Where?
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'Most temperate in the pleasures of the body, his passion was for glory only, and in that he was insatiable.'

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Phat
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Message 6 of 38 (202925)
04-27-2005 6:43 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by contracycle
04-27-2005 5:54 AM


Is Jar directly addressing YOU, Contra? I see no mention of your name. Personally, you can be a bit annoying at times, but I have enjoyed much of your input.
My issue with you is that you take things way too far.
But this IS a public forum within guidelines. Lets all be nice to each other.

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jar
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Message 7 of 38 (202986)
04-27-2005 11:13 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by contracycle
04-27-2005 5:54 AM


If the Phoo Shits, wear it.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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mick
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Message 8 of 38 (202995)
04-27-2005 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by contracycle
04-27-2005 5:54 AM


hey contracycle, be careful, i think jar may be trying to push you over the line while he straddles it (no mention of your name, you see).
mick

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contracycle
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Message 9 of 38 (203584)
04-29-2005 7:12 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Phat
04-27-2005 6:43 AM


quote:
Is Jar directly addressing YOU, Contra? I see no mention of your name. Personally, you can be a bit annoying at times, but I have enjoyed much of your input.
Come on this playground sophistry. Don't play dumb.
This is a clear and deliberate violation of the forum guidelines. Please take the appropriate action you keep insisting you should take.

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contracycle
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Message 10 of 38 (203588)
04-29-2005 7:16 AM


I specifically request a response from Percy as to why this complaint has not been actioned.

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Message 11 of 38 (203606)
04-29-2005 8:27 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by contracycle
04-29-2005 7:16 AM


If the discussions here and the way you feel treated here are causing you distress then it may be time to take a break. Coincidentally, you're currently suspended until Sunday. When you return, try to remain objectively focused on the topics and ignore whatever you find so annoying in those you're debating with. Keep your posts impersonal.

--Percy
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contracycle
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Message 12 of 38 (204568)
05-03-2005 5:46 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Admin
04-29-2005 8:27 AM


quote:
If the discussions here and the way you feel treated here are causing you distress then it may be time to take a break.
I've taken several, but this seems unversally interpreted as "running away from the issue".
We have here a blatant example of an administrator flagrantly flouting the forum guidelines, as frequently occurs. You can choose one of two consistent positions - either accept similar responses by posters, or discipline you administrators.
Which is it to be?

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Message 13 of 38 (204605)
05-03-2005 9:53 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by contracycle
05-03-2005 5:46 AM


contracycle writes:
We have here a blatant example of an administrator flagrantly flouting the forum guidelines, as frequently occurs. You can choose one of two consistent positions - either accept similar responses by posters, or discipline you administrators.
Eta was suspended yesterday.
I'd say the moderators here are no more perfect than the refs in the current NBA playoffs. We're always engaged in a continuous improvement process, and constructive fedback is appreciated.
It is the judgment of the moderators that you're violating the guidelines. The guideline violations of others do not justify further violations. In other words, you're responsible for your own violations, don't blame them on someone else.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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contracycle
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Message 14 of 38 (204613)
05-03-2005 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Admin
05-03-2005 9:53 AM


quote:
Eta was suspended yesterday.
I'm not sure how you think that stregthens your case. If the general frequency of suspensions has increased, but violations by moderators remain unaddressed, then that only demonstrates the double standard more clearly.
quote:
It is the judgment of the moderators that you're violating the guidelines. The guideline violations of others do not justify further violations. In other words, you're responsible for your own violations, don't blame them on someone else.
Fine. This thread is about guideline violations by an administrator. What relevance does the above have?
The remarks by Jar are in the first instance deliberate misrepresentations of fact, and secondly, blatantly intended to be insulting. In that aim they succeeded. Both of these are against the forum guidelines. I have the raised the matter as a complaint. What are you going to do about it?
This message has been edited by contracycle, 05-03-2005 10:30 AM

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Message 15 of 38 (204634)
05-03-2005 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by contracycle
05-03-2005 10:27 AM


contracycle writes:
The remarks by Jar are in the first instance deliberate misrepresentations of fact, and secondly, blatantly intended to be insulting. In that aim they succeeded. Both of these are against the forum guidelines. I have the raised the matter as a complaint. What are you going to do about it?
I don't agree with your assessment, so I'm not going to do anything.

--Percy
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