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Author Topic:   ID and the bias inherent in human nature
dsv
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Message 12 of 105 (203158)
04-27-2005 8:47 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Limbo
04-27-2005 5:42 PM


Nobodys perfect, and scientists are people too. A mistake scientists have been known to make is to ignore or rule out data which do not support a hypothesis.
Just as a quick point to think about in the discussion...
I think there is a fundamental difference between Christian theology and science with respect to the checks and balances within their respective communities.
Every Christian is basically working from the Bible. It's considered the word of God and is therefore true.
What "outsiders", if you will, don't always realize is that science is an extremely competitive community. There are checks and balances to theories. Everyone wants the new hot theory that will change everything, contrary to your belief.
For an example, just look at String Theory. Supported by many scientists that have always been held in very high regard and continue to be. There are no anti-Christian conspiracies involved with it, it comes from some of the leading minds in science. We're not refusing to see God or what have you, etc. etc. {insert all the reasons ID supposedly hasn't been accepted}, it's just that science comes with a specific set of guidelines to insure that it is indeed science.
This message has been edited by dsv, Wednesday, April 27, 2005 08:48 PM

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dsv
Member (Idle past 4745 days)
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Message 27 of 105 (203295)
04-28-2005 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Limbo
04-28-2005 9:17 AM


Limbo writes:
If all you know of ID comes from places like The Panda's Thumb, then you are biased without even realizing it.
I have read a lot of ID material. Tell me, who must I read in order to have the clear understanding of ID that you seem to possess?
WK mentioned Behe and Dembski, are you saying even they are biased to what you would call "orthodox scientific method"?
Where is this enlightening ID literature that we are missing?

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dsv
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Message 41 of 105 (203337)
04-28-2005 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Limbo
04-28-2005 10:44 AM


Re: Forum Guidelines
Limbo writes:
Think what you want. They threw the rules and guidelines at Galileo too. Seems like you are the cowardly one who hides behind the rules, hoping they will shield you from the truth. Ive seen it a million times. Very predictable.
What on earth are you talking about? You keep bringing up Galileo, if he were alive today we could test his astronomical observations. What's your point?
How does this further our apparently pedestrian knowledge of Intelligent Design. If you think we don't understand completely, numerous people have asked you to explain your definition. I don't think linking a video counts (maybe if it was Quicktime. I AM biased against RealVideo and not afraid to admit it!)

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