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blitz77
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Message 25 of 111 (20304)
10-20-2002 7:48 AM


On the 17/10/02, the Ohio State Board of Education has voted 17-0 to "teach the controversy"; adopting new science standards. Two of the changes include changing the definition of science to "Recognize that science is a systematic method of continuing investigation, based on observation, hypothesis testing, measurement, experimentation, and theory building, which leads to more adequate explanations of natural phenomena., where previously it was Recognize that scientific knowledge is limited to natural explanations for natural phenomena based on evidence from our senses or technological extensions.
NB-These changes do not decrease the teaching of evolution, or mandate the teaching of creation. Rather, it just includes things such as Describe how scientists continue to investigate and critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory.
To quote David Berlinski (IDist) has words for those who think evolution should be protected from criticism: The idea that the high school has to be a kind of large locker room where only the coach’s pep talk is considered reasonable— that should be repugnant. That’s not really how we want our educational establishment to be run, is it? Let’s give high school students the benefit of the doubt.
[This message has been edited to change (neither Christian nor creationist) to IDist by blitz77, 10-20-2002]
[This message has been edited by blitz77, 10-21-2002]

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blitz77
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Message 29 of 111 (20379)
10-21-2002 7:18 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by gene90
10-20-2002 9:05 PM


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Wrong. Dr. Berlinski is a Creationist -- a fellow of the Discovery Institute, an ID think-tank.
Discovery Institute | Public policy think tank advancing a culture of purpose, creativity, and innovation.
He also has his PhD in math, not science. I wouldn't place a lot of "faith" in his opinions on matters biological.
ID is not creationism. Gene, how could you make that mistake? It isn't young earth creationism or even progressive creationism.
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blitz77
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Message 31 of 111 (20385)
10-21-2002 7:34 AM
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10-21-2002 7:25 AM


I'll agree with that definition. It is debateable whether ID is creationism or not.
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blitz77
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Message 34 of 111 (20390)
10-21-2002 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by Mammuthus
10-21-2002 8:21 AM


No problem. I'll just change it from (neither Christian or creationist) to (non-Christian IDist).
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