Wyatt's Ark of the Covenent

Still telling lies about Ron, good going Jar -- "no independent outside source" has ever verified and supported Ron's discoveries?The Turkish government built a visitors center overlooking the Noah's Ark site in 1987! It's STILL THERE!The Saudis built a fence around Ron's Mt. Sinai site back in 1985! And IT'S STILL THERE!Ron's Red Sea crossing site is the ONLY location on the planet where people are studying actual coral-covered chariot remains -- and Ron's Sodom & Gomorrah sites still offer the best evidence for the destruction of those cities by fire and "brimstone" (the millions of sulfur balls embedded in those ashen ruins)!But you critics just don't like listening to sound evidence, do you?That's one of the reasons I've chosen not to participate on these forums, nothing is to be gained with sharing anything with people whose minds are already made up --I worked for 10 years with Ron Wyatt and managed his 1st museum for him, and not one single criticism from any of you folks has ever affected my belief that God lead Ron to the REAL sites of Noah's Ark, S&G, the Red Sea crossing, the real Mt. Sinai, and the true Ark of the Covenant!Pinkoski.com – Works of Jim Pinkoski

Jar, what do you mean that we cannot even prove that there is a Visitors Center over Ron's Noah's Ark site, or that the Saudis built a fence around Ron's Mt. Sinai site??Are you crazy?!?For over a decade we have been showing the pictures and the video footage of both places!! And you say we can't prove those things are at these sites??They ARE at these sites!Numerous people have been to these sites, numerous people have been to the Noah's Ark Visitors Center, and people have even managed to get into Saudi Arabia and verify the fence and signs around Ron's Mt. Sinai site! An yet, here it is, 10-15 years later, and you still don't understand the work that has been done at these sites and you still continue to post messages as if you know what you're talking about when you want to make Ron Wyatt's work look bad -- amazing!You're like a student who has fallen asleep in class, and then suddenly wakes up to proclaim he knows what the professor has been talking about but he really doesn't know anything that has been going on!And to the others reading this forum, I'll say it again -- I worked 10 years with Ron, and I managed his 1st museum in 1994-1996 -- so I KNOW what work has and hasn't been done!When I said that not one criticism has affected my conclusions, I have said this because with my knowledge of the discovery sites I can tell if people are actually paying attention to the evidence and when they aren't -- and when the people who don't know what they are talking about proclaim to know how to criticise the work, their criticisms have absolutely no affect upon my opinions!Again, you folks need to read over my website about Ron Wyatt's discoveries, Pinkoski.com – Works of Jim Pinkoski -- then try to say something INTELLIGENT!

Jar, I never said that the fences or the Visitors Center were "proof" of the sites being Noah's Ark or Mt. Sinai -- I said that the fences and the Visitor Center is proof that OTHERS HAVE LOOKED AT THE SITES AND VERIFIED THAT THEY ARE SPECIAL SITES THAT NEED TO BE STUDIED AND PROTECTED!You're the one who's whinning about how "nobody else" ever verified Ron's sites -- which is an obvious lie!If no one ever went out to these sites and investigated them, then there never would have been a fence put around the mountain in Saudi Arabia and there never would have been a Visitors Center built overlooking Ron's proposed site for Noah's Ark!But both sites have contructions at them that were posted by the host country! Why? BECAUSE THEY WERE IMPRESSED BY THE **EVIDENCE** THAT THEY FOUND AT THE SITES!!!Duh!

OK, guys -- sit up and try to pay attention --For thousands of years there was no Visitors Center there in Turkey above the Noah's Ark site -- in 1987 they built one --SO WHAT?The truth of the matter is that because of Ron Wyatt's 10 years of working on the site the Turkish government viewed his evidence and decided that they would announce to the world that Noah's Ark may have been found!The tourist information has been circulated better in Europe than in the USA because Europe is closer.Whine about the Visitors Center being a "money making scam" if you wish, but you are ignoring all the work that has gone into proving that the site can be Noah's Ark!Whiners don't make points with me, it just shows that you're all a bunch of children who can't pay attention to the facts!

Jar -- Pictoglyphs that have been carved into rocks thousands of years ago are not always clean and clear for us to read -- every single archaeologist on the planet has to deal with faded/damaged pictoglyphs and rock carvings at their various archaeologogical sites!Ron interpreted them one way, others might interpret them differently, that's just the way it is!

NosyNed, I included on my Noah's Ark webpage a photo and description from a Turkish travel book -- it was from a 1995 373-page tourism book entitled "Insight Guides: TURKEY" -- the ad was on page 310 -- you can see the pic and write up at the bottom of my webpage.Try to keep in mind that we are dealing with a Moslem country that to most accounts would be considered a semi-backward "3rd world country," so doing tours to the Noah's Ark site is NOT going to be like contacting your travel agent to do a trip to Hawaii --Duh!

Like I said, getting things done in the backwoods of a place that resembles a 3rd world country is extremely difficult! Also, who knows how informed the people of the entire country of Turkey are about the Noah's Ark site?? Do you guys think that the news media in Turkey works as good as it does here in the USA?? Don't be stupid, guys!The Visitors Center was in disrepair for a number of years, then a couple years ago it was repaired and now that things are "quiet" out there they tourists and scientists can again visit the site. The Visitors Center is in fine shape at the current time!Here's the one thing that has bothered me the most about all of this:The site was discovered and shown to the world in 1959, and printed in LIFE magazine in 1960 -- and here it is, 45 damn years later and we're STILL WAITING FOR THE TURKS TO GET OFF THEIR BUTTS AND LET US DO A FULL EXCAVATION ON THE SITE!!!You people want to complain about the "lack of evidence" -- well IT'S NOT OUR FAULT! The Turks control (or should I say don't control) the site -- and in my opinion when things start taking 45+ years to get excavated it shows real INCOMPETENCE on the part of the host country!Hey, if this thing had been found in the backwoods of Montana there's no way in hell that it would take us 45+ years to check it out and settle the issue!! But getting things done in Turkey obviously happen on a differnet time table --Bitch and whine all you guys want, I have my own list of gripes and complaints -- but MY gripes have to do with GETTING THE WORK DONE TO SETTLE THE ISSUE, and you guys just want to stop serious work from happening!Which in my opinion makes all of you guys pathetic examples of people who want to find the truth about any of Ron Wyatt's discoveries.This message has been edited by JimSDA, 05-01-2005 07:20 PM

Jar, are you going to tell me that Turkey is NOT a Moslem country??Then what is it?Christian?Buddhist?Hindu?Secular?Atheist?Give me a break! It's a Moslem country, and fortunately it is a rather modernized/westernized Moslem country -- but if you were to try to travel to the part of the country where the Noah's Ark site is located you would encounter villagers who look and act like they live in another century, i.e., they look like they live in a place that resembles a 3RD WORLD COUNTRY!

Jar, that's a load of crap that Turkey is a "secular" nation!And as far as the petroglyphs, it was God who called the altar "the golden calf altar" -- it DOESN'T MATTER that adult cows or adult bulls or even people are drawn onto the rocks! In Egypt they worshipped bulls, and young bulls are called "calves" -- and if the golden figure was a young bull, then it's proper to call the thing "the golden calf altar"!Oh yeah, I can see Moses' brother yelling at the guys, "Hey you guys, just draw calves!..."Yeah, right --The partying rebellious Hebrews could carve ANYTHING THEY WANTED onto the rocks, young calves, old calves, guys who herded calves . . .The one and only thing that designates this to be the golden calf altar is THE GOLDEN CALF, which is long gone!!This message has been edited by JimSDA, 05-01-2005 07:56 PM

Dead Parrot, the AiG people are LYING.They only wish to promote their own sites for Noah's Ark, so they "interpret" Ron's evidence in a negative way.They are jerks.

Nighttrain, Ron said he located what he believed were grave marker headstones for Noah's grave and his wife's grave -- these were NOT "on" Ararat, these were in the area of the resting site of the Ark which is on a smaller sister mountain that is 12 miles south of Ararat.Let's try to get this part of it straight, Ron's site for Noah's Ark is **NOT** on Ararat.Ron said that on one of his later trips to the area he saw that Noah's wife's grave had been dug up and her bones were gone -- and he heard that her jewelry had been sold on the black market and was gone.This is why Ron was always reluctant to share things with people -- because people have a tendency to destroy things and steal things.

Thor, you say that Ron's pic of the AofC looks "ridiculous" -- it's glowing in Ron's pic -- which just goes to show that you don't know a single thing about what the Bible says about the Ark of the Covenant!Try to quit using Steven Spielberg's movie as your one and only source of knowledge about the Ark!The Bible says that God's Shekinah Glory cloud resided over the mercy seat of the AofC -- and the Ark was NEVER looked at by common people -- only the High Priest would go into the Most Holy room of the Temple once a year on the Day of Atonement to sprinkle blood on the Ark! And even then maybe he never "saw" the Ark clearly with the cloud of God's glory blinding him!Pay attention to what the reality is regarding the AofC -- if Ron's pics show a glow around the Ark, IT PERFECTLY FITS WHAT THE BIBLE TELLS US!This message has been edited by JimSDA, 05-02-2005 11:44 AM

Jar, identifying the golden calf altar is just one part of the puzzle, and the way that Ron saw the evidence at this site ALL the pieces fit together!Ron read the ENTIRE Exodus story, he matched the route to the Red Sea crossing site being in the Gulf of Aqaba (where he found a kind of underwater landbridge with coral-covered chariot wheels and coral-covered human bones), then using the Bible he continued the route to Jebel el Lawz in Saudi Arabia that seems to have everything mentioned in the Bible -- which means it's Mt. Sinai!As with any archaeological site that dates back thousands of years, things are not going to be in perfect shape at the site -- but Ron matched the route, and matched the crossing site, and matched the main items mentioned that should be at Mt. Sinai! And since this site appears to have the giant rock at Horeb that the water came out of, and an altar with Egyptian style cows and bulls on it, and the mountain top seems to be burned black (the Bible says that God descended on the mount in smoke and fire), Ron came to the logical conclusion that the mount at St. Catherine's Monastery is NOT Mt. Sinai, and Jebel el Lawz **IS** the real Mt. Sinai!As for the other animal petroglyphs in Saudi Arabia, the Hebrews were made to wander in the land for 40 years after they refused to enter the promised land -- so what does it matter if there are more animal carvings??Ron had faith that this was the real Mt. Sinai -- and it is not a sin for him to believe so! But it IS a sin for people to mock his conclusions without paying attention to his evidence!

Brian -- Exodus 40:3 says that the Ark of the Covenant was covered with a veil. When the Philistines captured the Ark and it was on the cart it was still covered.When the Ark was in the Temple, that's when I meant that "common people" could never see it, but it was also covered whenever it was carried out in the open.And Leviticus 16:2 says that the Shekinah Glory cloud rested above the mercy seat of the AofC, "For I will appear in the cloud upon the mercy seat."

Admin_Eta, seeing that you know it all, have you ever thought of starting your own religion?There are a bunch of idiots on this forum who would gladly join you in your folly!This message has been edited by JimSDA, 05-02-2005 06:33 PM