TB or should I say Adminiquility
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
Mammuthus
Getting into Nature isn't easy. They would have had to do pretty much state of the art controls. If you disagree I respect that but I still equally respect the Nature referees.
M: Niether is getting into Science and your trust in the referees would have been misplaced here...
Henikoff S. Related Articles, Links
Detecting dinosaur DNA.
Science. 1995 May 26;268(5214):1192; discussion 1194. No abstract available.
PMID: 7761841 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
10: Allard MW, Young D, Huyen Y. Related Articles, Links
Detecting dinosaur DNA.
Science. 1995 May 26;268(5214):1192; discussion 1194. No abstract available.
PMID: 7761840 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
11: Hedges SB, Schweitzer MH. Related Articles, Links
Detecting dinosaur DNA.
Science. 1995 May 26;268(5214):1191-2; discussion 1194. No abstract available.
PMID: 7761839 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
12: Zischler H, Hoss M, Handt O, von Haeseler A, van der Kuyl AC, Goudsmit J. Related Articles, Links
Detecting dinosaur DNA.
Science. 1995 May 26;268(5214):1192-3; discussion 1194.
Amber DNA suffered a similar fate if you would like a reference to those papers as well..
TB:
YECism certainly does make the prediction that ancient bacteria would not deonstrate millions of years worth of mutations. I'll list a whole bunch of predicitons of YECism in a new thread when I've got time.
M: Please do and I will challenge you to provide evidence for your prediction in that thread
TB:
I simply listed the obvious controls that would have been done and you listed some even better ones. Yes I am a layman on ancient DNA but not a garden variety one. I would be very surprised if their controls didn't eliminate every possibility other than the bugs having got into the crystal in situ (ie whilst in the stratum).
M: That is what the dinosaur, dinosaur egg, and amber researchers thought as well. Unless these guys get another lab to independently reproduce the data I consider it unsubstantiated.
TB:
Anyway, it's a pleasure to have 'met' a genuine ancient DNAer.
M: Actually, my DNA is only about 34 years old...but my mammoths, muskoxen, and giant ground sloths DNA vary from 2000 to 50000 years old