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berberry
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Message 85 of 112 (202139)
04-25-2005 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by Rrhain
04-25-2005 4:51 AM


Rrhain's disgusting behavior
Rrhain writes truthlover:
quote:
Why do you persist in your lie?
I'm curious as to why you persist in hurling personal attacks and insults at other people, and further why the admins continue to allow you to make these unprovoked personal attacks at your whim. You have no evidence whatsoever that truthlover is a liar, yet you continue to badger him with that label ad nauseum.
Why can't you be civil?

Keep America Safe AND Free!

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berberry
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Message 89 of 112 (202440)
04-25-2005 10:34 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Monk
04-25-2005 6:38 PM


this is much deeper than republican vs. democrat
quote:
That's right, there is NO difference. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE
I generally agree with the gist of your post, but I think there is a difference in what's happening now and what's happened in the past, irrespective of the republican vs. democrat distinction. Every time either party has been in power they have abused that power, especially at times when that party controls not only both houses of Congress but also the White House. The difference now is that the stakes are much higher than I think they've ever been.
It is not just one party that currently controls the presidency, the House and the Senate but one specific, radical group within that party. The republican party is under the complete control of the religious right-wing. The most powerful republicans in the country have said openly that they do not respect a separation of church and state, they do not respect equal rights for women and gays and that they believe the judiciary must enforce god's law over man's law.
This group of Republicans which now controls two branches of government has made it known that it wants nothing less that complete control of all branches of the federal government and that it intends to use that control to roll back civil rights protections and to openly mix religion with basic government functions. We can see that this group has long been at work to do just this; Rrhain pointed out a number of unprecedented actions these radicals have taken in pursuit of power. The filibuster may well be the last major obstacle to complete control of the federal government by a radical faction of republicans.
So while I would agree with you that neither party can claim any moral superiority on the surface questions of Senate control and filibusters, I think the deeper issues this time round are so serious and so fundamental that our very system of government is at stake.
This time, things are very much different.

Keep America Safe AND Free!

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berberry
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Message 92 of 112 (202490)
04-26-2005 1:08 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by Monk
04-25-2005 11:46 PM


Re: End of the world as we know it....bull
Oh, you didn't get it? I didn't realize I'd need to be so explicit.
One side would impose its own narrow interpretation of the bible on everyone else. That same side would make our system of government and laws subservient to the bible. The other side feels that people should be able to decide for themselves whether or not to live according to the bible.
In other words, one side wants to remove our personal freedoms, while the other does not.
So there is a difference. I thought you'd be able to see it, but I'm not so surprised to find that I was wrong.

Keep America Safe AND Free!

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berberry
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Message 106 of 112 (204915)
05-04-2005 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by Rrhain
05-04-2005 2:24 AM


Re: Rrhain's disgusting behavior
Rrhain piffles:
quote:
Excuse me?
Hell no! There's no excuse whatever for calling truthlover a liar.
quote:
Civility demands that those who lie be called out. Outrageous behaviour requires an outrageous response. Have you not read your Miss Manners?
What? Judith Martin says that when someone cites a disputed statistic you call them a liar? Judith Martin says that when confronted with outrageous behavior one should behave outrageously?
Sounds to me like you're bearing false witness against Judith Martin! I think there's a word for that. Four letters, starts with 'L'.

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