Wyatt's Ark of the Covenent

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PS, you should read more of the material in the link, Ron would have been a hoot at parties.

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hum let's take a look at this.....

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There are two tables of stone, with four sides-written on all four sides. Four angels stand guard. The one that talked to me said that they have guarded the Ark and its contents since Moses put them in there. Now if that requires them to be there every minute or not, I don't know. I would assume that one angel could take care of things and the others could be doing other things at the same time. I don't have the computer power to understand what angels can do and can't do.

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I don't think it's rude at this stage to state that I think that Ron was barking mad, totally rugchewing mad.

I suppose we should feel a little sorry for a guy who was clearly mentally unstable, I mean it is sad in a way, and it really isnt Ron's fault that so many people are stupid enough to buy into this.But, I have been reading about Ron most of the morning and that page is hilarious.Check this:"Our (sic) of his mouth came words that he did not speak. They were, "That's Jeremiah's Grotto. The Ark of the Covenant is in there." This startled Ron for he felt goose bumps go up and down his back. He knew that either God or the enemy had done this, which one he did not know. His friend the director said, "That's wonderful. We will provide you with a place to stay, food, and do your laundry for you."The unnamed director, based solely on Ron's ventriliquism, is happy to provide everything Ron he thinks Ron would need. Now, this director doesn't immediately think about permits, or labour, or equipment, he apparently thinks about where Ron is going to stay and that he is well fed. Then he looks at Ron's strides and discovers that after the 'voice from nowhere' he best provide a laundry service.Brian.

Out of interest - have we now covered all of Ron's stuff?I know we have done the ArK, the Blood of Jesus and the exodus? Is there anything we have missed? anything else we need a thread on?

As the famous man said "There's more!"There is also the Sodom and Gomorrah nonsense, which is basically debunked in the same paragraph that it is introduced in.From the same link.Sodom-Gomorrah--Beyond Ron's impression (many of which came from the Lord) that the area which he had passed many times was Sodom, they knew they needed more evidence to prove it to people. The very night they hiked into the area looking for evidence, it rained in this place that gets only 1/4 inch of rain each year. This rain washed the rocks and the ash away which permeates the area, exposing millions of sulfur balls which is the biblical brimstone, and which God used to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. Now, apparently the rain washed away the ash to reveal sulphur balls, and there is a 1/4 of an inch of rain each year in this area. Yet it was only this particular rainfall that revealed the sulphur balls! Why did none of the previous c. 4000 years of rain not reveal anything!But, in reality, no one knows for sure even where Sodom and Gomorrah are located, this is just another of Ron's unsupported claims.There's also Ron's claim that he knew how the pyramids were built.But, even the things you mention have gazillions of unsupported claims within them.I think a coffee house thread of Wyatt quotes would be amusing and informative.Brian.

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Actually Yaro, in my estimation anyone who does not accept the scriptures as the fully inspired word of God is an atheist in my eyes.

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Wow, the Pope is an Athiest.Who knew?

But you ARE participating in a Forum.And you are the one who appears to have already made up your mind, judging from the end of your message. Also, there is a current discussion of 'lying' and what it entails on the Moderation board. I suggest you read it before you start throwing around that kind of accusation just because you disagree with someone's point of view or interpretation of your 'evidence'.

EZscience, if there was "no evidence whatsoever" then Ron's discoveries NEVER would have gotten onto CNN, Dateline, 20/20, PAX TV, The 700 Club, PBS, and in Time and Newsweek, and published by a Swedish scientist who's entire profession deals with "looking at the evidence"! BUT THEY HAVE!For Jar or anyone to blatently say that Ron has "no evidence whatsoever for his claims" is a person who is playing games -- they are NOT dealing seriously with the material, and they are only doing this message forum a disservice because of their preconcieved biases against Ron Wyatt and his work!If Jar was truly a serious "science" kind of guy he would be interested in knowing "why" Dr. Moller and the others believe in Ron's evidence, and Jar would ENCOURAGE MORE WORK BEING DONE ON RON'S SITES!If he (or anyone else on this forum) merely posts negative messages about "all of Ron's work," it shows me that they are not here to honestly share inflormation and learn something, they are here because they dispise Ron's work.That attitude goes directly against the entire concept of honest/serious scientific investigation!I'm posting on this forum for a little while to attempt to get this thread back to being "fair" about Ron's work -- I was here a year or so ago, arguing with the very same people -- and I'm not going to make it a life-long job of me being on this forum forever, I have better things to do with my time. I'm just posting for a week or so, that's probably all -- then I go back to dealing with people who are a little more honest with listening to the evidence!

OK.
I am not familiar with this guy Ron Wyatt, beyond what I have gathered from this thread.Let me review some information and get back to you.EZ

WmScott, I finally got the image downloaded onto my message #179, so you may reply to it now.

EZscience, please remember that Ron's work dealt with 7 different important biblical archaeology discoveries, and each item is going to have a different amount of evidence -- and also try to keep in mind that, while a lot of the material is posted for free on the Internet for everyone to see, some things are just in the books and other publications. So you may be seeing only parts of the evidence, OK?

The question to Ron seems to be whether or not he took the stones out of the AofC by himself, and his answer is "no" -- he had the help of the 4 angels. If Ron had been the only one to remove the 10Cs from the Ark, then Ron would have had to somehow lift the Ark's lid off and then take out the 10C stones -- but the 4 angels lifted the lid, then Ron lifted out the 10Cs. Ron did not take out the 10Cs all by himself, he had the help of the 4 angels.And by the way, it's really disappointing to hear Jar and various people on this forum doubt the existence of angels -- there are thousands of stories of people being helped by angels all over the world, and these stories verify the existence of the angels! And 4 of them seem to have been appointed the job of guarding the Ark of the Covenant, and those are the 4 angels that Ron saw in the cave.

And you rely on the bible, ONE book written 2000 years ago by dozens of different authors and translated countless times?The scientific method is a *process* for advancing understanding based on experimentation, observation, and actual evidence. Nothing has ever been proven superior as a means for approximating the truth and nothing ever will. No religions even propose any comparable process. They consist entirely of untestable, non-falsifiable dogma. Ergo, they are little more than mythology.

Hmmm. upon investigation, it didn't take me long to find this site entitled "Wyatt Archaeological Fraud Documentation".And apparently even other Christians who *wanted* to believe him are convinced that this guy was a A Great Christian Scam] Artist.Sorry, but I'm going to another thread.
I think you already have you rhands full with this one.EZ

Okay. Once again, NO EVIDENCE.You come here with some drawing and expect it to be taken as evidence?Yet another classic example of Ron just making shit up.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Please show where I said there are no angels.You insist on trying to change the subject and when asked direct questions simply make up stuff you claim the other person said.This is a FORMAL request for you to show where I said I doubted the existence of angels.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion