Wyatt's Ark of the Covenent

Jar -- what an interesting idea, to publish things that disprove what you're trying to share with people . . .First of all, Ron died in 1999, so it's a little hard for him to respond to anything that has come to light in the past 6 years!If anyone provides some solid evidence that completely disproves something we have for evidence, of course we would agree with it!The only problem, like I said before, when you are dealing with archaeological sites that are 3,000+ years old, and interpreting the evidence is going to be a bit up in the air! People are going to disagree about things!You THINK that someone has successfully counter-dated some of the Saudi petroglyphs -- but the truth of the matter is that the issue is NOT settled! The debate will continue! And it may take YEARS for it to get settled, or it may NEVER get settled --The ONLY way the truth can be known for sure is if we had a Time Machine, BUT WE DON'T!

Of the 7 major discoveries that Ron worked with, ONLY ONE of them is "absent" regarding having evidence for it, and that's the AofC.There is TONS of evidence for Noah's Ark, S&G, the Red Sea crossing site, the real Mt. Sinai, Joseph's grain bins, and the wooden lift machines used for building the pyramids.Ron always said that the revealing of the AofC to the world would happen in God's timing, so until it is time for it to be shown we can spend that time investigating the other 6 discoveries, the ones that have all the evidence right out in the open for the most part!

PecosGeorge, the same goes for you -- let's hear what all you've managed to get onto national TV!Show us how "easy" it is!

Charles, angels do what God wants them to do -- and for some reason mankind does not get to see or talk with angels whenever we might like to! They remain behind the scenes, invisible -- mainly because they are not supposed to interfere with mankind's free will. God has given us all free will, and if we all knew without a doubt that we were being "watched" by invisible beings, it would affect our choices. People would get "paranoid," afraid of "being watched" -- so the best way to not become worried about being watched is for us not to ever see the angels who are watching!The Bible says that the main thing that God has chosen to affect the spiritual growth of fallen mankind is "God's Word" -- so that's why I think the angels stay invisible for the most part, the spiritual growth that God wants to happen inside mankind is in our minds as we read the Word of God, the Bible.

Charles, angels do what God wants them to do -- and for some reason mankind does not get to see or talk with angels whenever we might like to! They remain behind the scenes, invisible -- mainly because they are not supposed to interfere with mankind's free will. God has given us all free will, and if we all knew without a doubt that we were being "watched" by invisible beings, it would affect our choices. People would get "paranoid," afraid of "being watched" -- so the best way to not become worried about being watched is for us not to ever see the angels who are watching!The Bible says that the main thing that God has chosen to affect the spiritual growth of fallen mankind is "God's Word" -- so that's why I think the angels stay invisible for the most part, the spiritual growth that God wants to happen inside mankind is in our minds as we read the Word of God, the Bible.

Jar, the Bible says that "God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise"! 1st Corinthians 1:27You place great importance upon questioning every little thing, as if that will lead you to the truth about Noah's Ark, etc. -- but if Dr. Ekrem Akurgal can spend two minutes looking at the visual evidence for Noah's Ark and come to the conclusion that it IS a boat, then this shows that you are making all of this far more complicated than it needs to be!Again, Dr. Akurgal was the leading archaeologist of Turkey --And who are you?

Charles, of course there are all sorts of dynamics dealing with getting onto TV, but while there is a lot of garbage on TV, there is also a lot of interesting and worthwhile material!I just want to know if any of you guys have ever even come close to having anything that YOU'VE done on the tube!Don't you want to be famous?Oh, I see, you just want to be "king of the hill" here on the EvC forums! You have a "big fish in a little pond" fixation, right? Afraid to play in the really BIG ponds . . .

Charles, Dr. Akurgal was born in 1911 and he retired in 1981 -- so when Ron met him in 1985 he was an old man, and he died before he could get involved with the work on the Noah's Ark site.Yeah, we weren't happy about it either!But Ron has him ON FILM admitting that the site is a giant boat, i.e., Noah's Ark!The simple evidence was fine for Dr. Akurgal!

Charles, complain all you wish, but the facts show that Ron was able to share his work in the national media arena -- and YOU HAVEN'T!Believe it or not, it shows that Ron was willing to engage in serious discussions with the right people -- but as it is will "professionals" in the world today, 99% already have their own agendas and really don't want to be exposed to something new! So the evidence we share just falls on deaf ears.Like yours . . .

Yaro, you quoted Bernard Brandstater's report of going on the AofC dig with Ron, and, as you noticed, Bernard mentioned my name in his write up --I sent e-mails to Brandstater to try to explain why they did "not" get into the cave where Ron says the AofC is located, but Brandstater still seems to want to focus on the group's "failure" to get into the cave --There were about 10 other helpers along on that dig, and most of them were not Christians -- they were just nice guys helping Ron on his adventure --If any of those people had gotten into the cave with the Ark, there is a good chance that God would have STRUCK THEM DEAD! So to make sure this did not happen, God arranged it so that the group did not manage to find a second entrance into the cave!Believe it or not, God does not like killing people -- but as you have read elsewhere on this thread, 16 people have died over the years when they attempted to interfer with this dig! The 6 Levittes who went into the tunnel in their attempt to move the AofC out of the cave and out of Arab territory all dropped dead in the tunnel and Ron helped the Israeli authorities remove the bodies from the tunnel -- so who knows how many of the 10 people on Ron's team might have DIED if Ron had managed to get into the cave on this dig?Brandstater was a Christian, his heart would have been right with the Lord -- but the others were just your regular secular un-repentant worldly everyday sinners -- the type of person whom God will probably NOT let walk into the presense of the most holy Ark of the Covenant!So God SAVED THEIR LIVES by not letting them into the cave, and Bernard Bradstater should be THANKING God that they were prevented from getting into the cave on that trip!We might be here telling how 26 people have died while working on the AofC dig instead of only 16 having died!

Yaro, this is NOT a "wacky thread" --Whether we are discussing the details of the evidence of Ron's discoveries, or the psyhological make up of the people criticizing the discoveries, the entire discussion has its merits!It's just as important for people to understand "why" they are negative against the discoveries as it is for them to understand the evidence --This material was mocked on this forum a year or two ago, and the lesson for everyone here to learn (becuase we basically have the same old people here trying once again to hack the discoveries apart) is that "TIME" HAS NOT LET THE DISCOVERIES GO AWAY!The scientists and the people who admire the discoveries are still working with them, and they will CONTINUE to work with them because they are impressed that they are the real things -- and who knows, if they continue working with them THEY MIGHT FINALLY FIND THE PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT YOU NEED TO SEE TO CONVINCE YOU OF THE DISCOVERIES!So let's try to take an attitude of encouraging us to continue the work, OK?

Charles, how about this version of an article?"Charles Knight and several members of the EvC discussion forum attempted last week to break into a cave in the Garden Tomb area in Jerusalem to disprove the claims of the late Ron Wyatt of Nashville, TN, but for a mysterious reason all 10 of the EvC forum members were struck down just outside the cave system by mysterious circumstances, and they all died en route to the hospital."

Yaro, think about it -- why wouldn't the Israelis go after the AofC?Do you recall that the Jews don't really like Jesus?We told them that Jesus' blood is on the mercy seat -- that is one reason why they are not extremely interested in getting to the AofC!The other reason is that the Jews know that the Arabs will NOT like it if the AofC was in the possession of the Jews -- the Ark was often carried into battle to defeat the enemies of the Jews, and that would cause the Arabs to panic and get even more violent than they already are! The Arabs would freak out!BTW, my post about "10 EvC forum members found dead in Jerusalem outside AofC cave" was just an extension of what Ron says has already happened to 16 people -- because God can stop anyone He wishes from messing with the AofC!I'm more than happy to let anyone go over there and try his or her best to get into the cave!In fact, I'd love to see the day when all the world's foremost religious leaders might line up outside the cave and then go inside one at a time -- the pope, Hal Lindsey, pentecostal pastors, Indian holy men, the Dali Lama, the president of the USSR (don't kid yourself, atheism IS a religion!), a Baptist, a Lutheran, an Episcopal gay pastor, a Moslem Iman, a Jewish rabbi who hates Jesus, etc., etc. -- let them all go into the cave, AND WHOEVER CAN COME OUT ALIVE WILL BE THE WINNER!That would settle it real quick as to who has the Truth!