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Message 22 of 135 (201898)
04-24-2005 6:22 PM 		Reply to: Message 17 by coffee_addict
04-24-2005 5:24 PM

Nothing will be impossible for them....
troy writes:
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It is also possible that the imperfection in the human mind (the physical barriers) are meant as an incentive for us to better ourselves. Why would we build computers and softwares to compute things for us if we have the mindpower to do them ourselves?
Well lets take language as an example,ok?
wikipedia writes:
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Scientists do not yet agree on when language was first used by humans (or their ancestors). Estimates range from about two million years ago, during the time of Homo habilis, to as recently as forty thousand years ago, during the time of Cro-Magnon man.
So...whether created or evolved, language was developing...probably in line with the brain.
Then, the Bible says:
KJV writes:
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Gen 11:6-7= And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
Now...if the Bible is true, why would god scramble everybodys lingo? Could it be that they wanted to all raise up as a people that did not need Him?
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Well.. if languge was a purely evolutionary development, is it in the interests of survival that nobody understands anybody else?
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Even today, professions have specialized language. Go to dental college and learn a whole new terminology. This is also what makes "educated" minds able to distance themselves from mere simpletons.
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Words don't have to be complicated, however. I can say "tru-dat" and say in one catchphrase the equivalent of saying "That is very correct and very relevant to the topic at hand".
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Humans do not blindly evolve. We have intelligence and motive.
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It makes it much more obvious to me that a supreme intelligence and a supreme motive and plan is behind it all.
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Message 44 of 135 (208014)
05-14-2005 9:27 AM 		Reply to: Message 23 by CK
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Re: Nothing will be impossible for them....
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Well.. if languge was a purely evolutionary development, is it in the interests of survival that nobody understands anybody else?
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I have no idea what this is suppose to mean - it makes no sense at all.
I mean that it seems rather strange that language is different all over the world...not just by a little but by a lot. Would not the terms of evolution allow for the most efficient mode of communication within the species regardless of where they lived? (Within a range of similarity)
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05-14-2005 11:39 AM 		Reply to: Message 45 by jar
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Re: Nothing will be impossible for them....
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Why would language develop?
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Uhh..to communicate?
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05-14-2005 3:24 PM 		Reply to: Message 47 by jar
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Re: Nothing will be impossible for them....
Now who would you communicate with?
It would start with family...my Mother and Dad..Brothers, Sisters..then in school, I would answer questions and talk to my friends...still later, I would be on the computer talking with Orange Orangutans and everyone else!
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05-15-2005 3:14 AM 		Reply to: Message 49 by jar
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Re: Nothing will be impossible for them....
Yes, and by telephone to Grandma.
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05-15-2005 3:08 PM 		Reply to: Message 51 by jar
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Re: Nothing will be impossible for them....
I dunno...when a certain type of dog barks, that bark sounds the same in china as it does in Sweden. Other behaviors are not contingent upon location--except environmental adaptations. Only humans---among all animals--have no "fur"...and have different articulations of expression in different areas of the world.
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05-15-2005 3:19 PM 		Reply to: Message 53 by mick
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Re: Nothing will be impossible for them....
As soon as I typed that, I knew that someone would comment on the "no fur" thing! I should know because I have a pet Nandayu Conure...although her cousins squawk much the same as she does no matter where they live!
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