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Limbo Inactive Member |
If you disagree thats fine, but could you explain why Im wrong? I say judge a philosophy by its fruit. The darwinist philosophy is devoid of fruitful meaning. Can you show otherwise?
This message has been edited by Limbo, 05-16-2005 12:47 PM
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: What evidence can you offer for these assertions ? Especially the second and third which appear to be baseless attacks.
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CK Member (Idle past 4155 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
No....no... nice try at a sidestep...very nimble.
It's not a matter of right/wrong - it's now become a matter of you showing that you have the basic knowledge required to actually get into the ring. What's the point of having a drawn-out debate now that it is clear (or appears to be) that you don't actually understand the basics? I think we need to establish (in your own words) a few things. Let's start with the basics:
quote: Let's make sure you actually understand the terms as seperate entities before we try and link them together! EDIT: PAUL - ARE YOU OK WITH THIS APPROACH? I THINK WE NEED A BETTER IDEA OF LIMBO's UNDERSTANDING OF TERMS AND TERMINOLOGY BEFORE WE GO DOWN A LOT OF DARK ALLEYS! This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 16-May-2005 12:54 PM This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 16-May-2005 12:55 PM This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 16-May-2005 12:56 PM This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 16-May-2005 12:57 PM This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 16-May-2005 12:58 PM
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Limbo Inactive Member |
quote: Fair enough! 1) Nihilism: Rejection of all distinctions in moral or religious value and a willingness to repudiate all previous theories of morality or religious belief. 2) you mean this?
quote: I consider this a dodge, double-talk, an effort to disguise/confuse the philosophical implications of Darwinism. This message has been edited by Limbo, 05-16-2005 01:01 PM
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
I'd really say that major discussion of the philosophy should probably take place in a different thread. Or threads if we want to get past the nihilism issue and on to the other alleged implications.
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Limbo Inactive Member |
Love to
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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
Hi CK, I am certainly not veteran enough to tell you about the forums and stuff, but perhaps the philosophical implications of Darwinism/naturalism/evolution should be reserved for a seperate thread? I only say this because ID debates have a tendency to drift into a defence of evolution or darwinism or whatever because IDers so very frequently end up saying "Oh yeah? Well your theory is worse!" or "If we should teach your philosophy they should teach mine!".
edit: OK, I guess I was beaten to it by Paul I'll just slope off over here --> *slopes* This message has been edited by Modulous, Mon, 16-May-2005 06:08 PM
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KKawohl Inactive Member |
Your opinion would be appreciated to my opinion of who designed the ID designer. (wow, that's confusing)
IMHO, ours or alien spirit initially evolved into the ID. Our spirit lives in a body that contains the mind that contains the spirit within the subconscious; it records our life experiences. The spirit grows & expands & upon physical death this spiritual energy is released & continues as individualized or united spiritual energy. It is this spiritual energy that initially created the ID. Einstein said, "Everyone who is seriously interested in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universea spirit vastly superior to man, and one in the face of which our modest powers must feel humble." According to some scientists in New Delhi recent research, the biomedical part of life can be created through advanced applications of molecular biology and organic chemistry. But what really happens is that when the cells find out that they have to be part of a union, they communicate among themselves and form a larger life form. The process continues. While the process propagates, energy in the form of electromagnetic flux forms as a concentrated form of clustered energy. That clustered energy survives even if the physical body of the artificial life form is destroyed. The energy cluster is actually part of a larger cluster, which can be viewed as part of the whole universe. The life as we know is collection of cells with a union that is governed by that electromagnetic flux of energy. The energy is indestructible. The energy in the whole universe is interlinked and is part of a huge integrated infrastructure. It may even extent to multiple universes and dimensions.http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/1666.asp Kurt "I Am A Transcendentalist". Transcendentalism Today = Balancing Science and Religion http://transcendentalism.us
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
If you impression is that you are being ignored my impression is that is because people don't know what to say about your posts. They may also not be interested in discussion that kind of idea.
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KKawohl Inactive Member |
I apparently missed your answer on this thread which asks, "Who designed the ID designer. What is your opinion?
"I Am A Transcendentalist". Transcendentalism Today = Balancing Science and Religion http://transcendentalism.us
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Limbo Inactive Member |
I read that article...very interesting. I wonder what approach their scientists take. Would it be considered "proper" science by American mainstream science standards?
My guess is that due to the articles seemingly metaphysical implications, it would be dismissed out of hand by our ever objective, open-minded scientific community. Just a guess. This message has been edited by Limbo, 05-16-2005 02:52 PM
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CK Member (Idle past 4155 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: Hey we don't go for that here - you are just as welcome to tell me I'm full of shit as anyone else (and failing that we fight it out by the old monkey or on Picc Gardens). I agree with both you and Paul (and it seems Limbo as he is starting a thread on this topic)
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
I'm not aware of any reason to think there there is an ID designer needed by anything. I'm happy with current explanations for apparent design or with answers like "unknown for now".
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Limbo Inactive Member |
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CK Member (Idle past 4155 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
ah so you agree with that chart that if it's the christian god - he must have been a minor or evil god?
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