How beautiful is life?

For the sake of doing good - the rewards of heaven are really just a nice bonus/incentive

Try to make it look like I didn't write this because ididnt. repeat i didnt write this:

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The experience of life is what presents something beautiful. You're born into this world with the potential to spend each and every day getting blown by supermodels on a bed of money and tequila, or to wind up in a ditch, with a knife through your eye, covered in what you hope is your own vomit.
It's big and it's scary, and it's random and horrible and funny, and you have to hold on frikkin' tight or get blown off the edge. And that is Fucking Beautiful.

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I doint write that you did plz make it look that way ty

Let's face it - no regular reader is going to mistake that for one of your utterances.The quote is about right (And Phat - I will do some teacher stories tomorrow!)

Dan you make life look like a rollercoaster when in most countries the "money and tequilla" isn't an option. It's a few pesos to put bread on the table.We're existing in this world of excess.

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listen to phil collins and nas

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I have been reading a book that you might like. Its called A Refutation of Moral Relativism by Peter Kreeft. The book is the result of a recorded series of conversations by Isa Ben Adam, a 41 year old Paleestinian Arab who is a Professor of Philosophy at the American University in Beirut, Lebanon. He is interviewed by Liberty (Libby) Rawls, a journalist who has been called a "classy sassy Black feminist". She has been a wife, a psychological social worker, a surfing instructor, an actress, an alcoholic, and a private investigator besides being a journalist. The topic is a question: Are there moral absolutes? Great book!

yeah,
seems like you read some interesting stuff
ill get to calling you eventually lol.

This book:To Heal a Fractured World: The Ethics of Responsibility
Jonathan Sackshttp://tinyurl.com/89lq8covers (I think) similar ground - I may pick up a copy this week and will post a review if I do.

Thanks...yeah sorry if I sound so desperate! I just wanted to talk to you guys, but I'll stop bugging you about it. Here is a bold quote from ISA about empiricism:
"Empiricism is self-contradictory. It says all our knowledge is by sense perception but Empiricism itself can't be known by sense perception."As a Christian, I am not afraid to hash it out with intellectual atheists, doubters, and eclectics. I much prefer talking on this board than on a religious forum...How beautiful is life? It is ugly and harsh at times...it hurts and it is unfair. This is true for all of us. There may be a reason for all of this suffering, and some say that there is not a reason. THAT hurts. Here in Denver, a young man not much older than you was senselessly killed for no reason other than that he broke up a fight.
Video He was so young and had so much potential! I feel for his parents!

no i want to talk to u too but life is getting a little hectic with this band business and this dumb schedule

I wouldn't worry too hard about confusion in the marketplace there, kiddo. Only one regular on this forum can use the word "fuck" with such wild abandon, and somehow make it sound like meditations from the Bhagavad Gita.Hint: it's not you.But yeah, just in case... if anyone's scratching their heads and wondering, "did Chris write that?" Well, no. That was me. True. Lotsa folks get born with a high potential on the injury-to-the-eye motif. How does this contradict what I said?Again, boyo... the experience is the beauty, wherever the ride takes you. Now I'm confused. Are you saying countries that use pesos don't have tequila?Man, that settles it. You and me, kid... road trip. Tijuana, Mexico! That'll chase those somber teenage blues away, while simultaneously showing you how readily one can find their pleasures, even in the shittiest of places. Yeah, it's pretty sweet, huh? Damn, we got dealt some lucky shit, there.

And what 'bonus' or 'incentive' does an atheist have?

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Here is a bold quote from ISA about empiricism:
"Empiricism is self-contradictory. It says all our knowledge is by sense perception but Empiricism itself can't be known by sense perception."

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...and yet, it works better than any other method we have ever discovered for providing us with reliable, useful information about the natural world!

Its all about trust. who we trust. what we trust. why we trust or distrust. If I found out that all of the ministers whom I respect were fake, it would shake my trust in my beliefs. How much is uncertain. You probably lost faith in the reality of christianity in part by losing trust in people you knew who were part of it.
You also consequently trusted people such as yourself now who were agnostic/atheist and yet who showed you love, acceptance, and trust.Perhaps even as a naturalist/agnostic, you are on the path that you were mean't for. God only knows.

Well, rather than the word "trust", WRT science, I would use the more specific concept of "results that anyone can obtain, regardless of personal belief".That's powerful when a system can be that useful and that universal.