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Author Topic:   Terrorists' Main Weapon is the Media
Tal
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Message 1 of 25 (208675)
05-16-2005 1:51 PM


I heard a General say this while during a briefing at the Embassy once. News Media is definatley the main source, but they use others mediums like the internet to release beheading videos and the like.
It has taken on a whole new meaning this week.
This story of an interigator flushing a Koran down the toilet has already led to 16 deaths.
May 12: Students toss a burning paper with a drawing of President Bush next to the words "Death to Bush!" as protesters rally in Kabul.
May 11: A car burns in the street as university students protest in the steets in Jalalabad, Afghanistan.
Now what happened from REAL reports is that a prisoner flushed a Koran down the toilet to clog it up. Michael Isikoff is directly responsible for the deaths of 16 people. But that's on him.
The point here is not that the Media is in league with anyone, they are there to sell commercials, but that the NEWS Media is their best weapon, whether the news is true or not (Al Jazeera).

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Tal
Member (Idle past 5677 days)
Posts: 1140
From: Fort Bragg, NC
Joined: 12-29-2004


Message 6 of 25 (209317)
05-18-2005 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Silent H
05-17-2005 2:25 PM


Newsweek retracts Quran story
U.S. military says it must reach out to Afghans to ease tension
Monday, May 16, 2005 Posted: 11:49 PM EDT (0349 GMT)
Newsweek has now retracted its story about Quran desecration.
PLAY VIDEO
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Newsweek backs off a story blamed for unrest in Muslim countries.
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Anti-American protests erupt in Afghanistan.
U.S.: No signs of Quran abuse
United States
Guantanamo Bay Naval Base (Cuba)
(CNN) -- Newsweek magazine issued a retraction Monday of a May 9 report on the alleged desecration of the Quran at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
CNN
The report -- which said American interrogators put copies of the Quran on toilets or in one case, flushed one down a toilet -- was blamed for anti-American riots in Afghanistan and elsewhere in the Muslim world last week.
Look guys, I'm all for the media reporting the news. The problem is that some media outlets spin reports based on their agenda. cBS and Newsweek are really good examples. They are simply out to get Bush and the Military (because those stories sell commercials/magazines and they could be said to have a little bias).
Holmes
The Government and News Media are 2 different animals. The Government(s)all acted on the intelligence that everyone had, and WMD was only 1 reason for Iraq. The difference is the News Media is supposed to report news...period. Now don't get me wrong, I don't care if the Media busts Bush or the Military for screwing things up. That's what they are there for to acurately report what IS/HAS happened. Abu Graihb being the biggest example.
But after the cBS Rathergate episode you would think they (Newsweek and any other out-to-get-Bush-military) would learn something. But they haven't. I don't think the media has ever reported WHO GAVE THEM KORAN'S IN THE FIRST PLACE! We bend over backwards to make sure they can practice their religion.
I have to say his screw up is bad, and a bunch of idiots then went on to make it worse.
Right, and is it kinda silly to get so upset over a book being flushed down the toilet? Not in my eyes. I'm a christian, but you can flush the bible or do anything you want to it. Its not the book, its what is written in it and how I apply it to my life that matter to me.
Not so with Muslims. Supposedly if you desecrate the Koran its an insult to all of them. And the average Muslim in India isn't going to believe the retraction. They think the US Government is forcing them to retract it.
To sum up, we have enough of a PR problem without people making stuff up to inflame it further.
This message has been edited by Tal, 05-18-2005 09:44 AM

Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8
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Tal
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Message 8 of 25 (209347)
05-18-2005 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Silent H
05-18-2005 10:24 AM


There are also cases of poor judgement, which I think the Rather case was. I really do not believe he'd have gone ahead with false info or that which he thought was not supported. You have still not responded to my query that despite the forgery of the specific document, those involved have expressed that it accurately conveyed the man's feelings at the time
Holms...this sounds eerily close to Bush/Intel/WMD. So you'll give Rather the benefit of the doubt but not Bush? (Yes, one issue has far more reaching consequences than the other; but the principle is the same.
Bush then pushed a policy which was not well researched, telling us it would be easy, and the result of his actions were tens of thousands killed. If Isikoff is connected, I do not see how Bush gets off, despite their heading two different types of organizations.
Bush doesn't get off. He, as Commander-in-Chief, in personally responsible for the exectutive decisions he makes. Isikoff and his editors don't get off either. They need to do what they can to repair the situation.
As far as there being other reasons, it is quite clear that no other reason was going to justify invasion, including to the American people. Yes there were other reasons but none of them were sufficient
I agree here also.
Wow, check yourself before you wreck yourself. First of all you can't portray all muslims as believing what you just said, just as you cannot bill yourself as the example of what all Xians will believe.
Look around the world and what has happened. Its pretty clear.
I don't think anyone has died because the 10 Commandments were taken out of a courtroom or a nipple was popped at the Superbowl, incidently those things actually did happen.
I agree, so do they. Why are you making up that all muslims are nutty and likely to go on rampages, or die during large commotions, that Americans or Xians are not?
Give me an comparable example.

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Tal
Member (Idle past 5677 days)
Posts: 1140
From: Fort Bragg, NC
Joined: 12-29-2004


Message 10 of 25 (209372)
05-18-2005 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by jar
05-18-2005 11:48 AM


Re: Weapons of Mass Hysteria
IMHO we need to realize that terrorism is based on WMHs and not WMDs. It is a primary goal to be able to create situations that have propaganda value.
Like 911?

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Tal
Member (Idle past 5677 days)
Posts: 1140
From: Fort Bragg, NC
Joined: 12-29-2004


Message 14 of 25 (209404)
05-18-2005 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by jar
05-18-2005 2:04 PM


Re: Weapons of Mass Hysteria
Sure, 911 is a great example of WMHs. It was a seriously flawed attempt that pretty much failed in all of its efforts and while a great tragedy, certainly not a threat to the US.
wow

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