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Message 211 of 213 (210030)
05-20-2005 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 210 by Percy
05-20-2005 1:25 PM

Re: Energy
In the Theory of Relativity, the intuitive notion of time as an independent entity is replaced by the concept that space and time are intertwined and inseparable aspects of a four-dimensional universe, which is given the name space-time. The existence of a fourth dimension is still being vastly debated. If we represent thought and emotion which is not physical, as existing in space, we must then accept the existence of another, a fourth dimension where these processes thrive. Our mind, thought, truth, intuition, intelligence, appreciation and awareness are all aspects of another dimension. Energy, or life is a fundamental attribute and function of the universe. Our bodies build up and harness a minute amount of spiritual energy that is transferred into the spiritual dimension upon our death. Some string theorists claim there are up to 20 dimensions.

Every person is born with consciousness or a spirit and it is not a religious force nor heaven sent or heaven inspired, though some people via deep meditation can have their spirit interact with a spiritual existence. The spirit or soul exists in the collective mental processes of the subconscious. A child’s spirit is a part of the mother's spirit which is passed down to the fetus and is then separated from its host at birth. Consciousness arises when contact has been made with a base; (sense or emotion) this is when spirit initiates its first recording. The spirit is the database of the senses and emotions. One may say that emotions are psychological, (of the psyche) structuralism, psychobiological, but they are nevertheless of the spirit; which also subscribes to a form of natural selection. The mind is unable to consciously communicate with the spirit. The conscience is the only communicator with the spirit or soul. The conscience relays information to the spirit unless the conscience is anesthetized by immoral acts or evil deeds.

In recent years, we have learned that up to 95% of the Universe is made of a type of matter or energy that we cannot see nor understand. Gravity may ripple across the Universe in waves, and certain cosmic rays, atomic particles moving at near light speed, possess an energy far greater than that which can be explained by modern physics.

Albert Einstein stated, “Everyone who is seriously interested in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe—a spirit vastly superior to man, and one in the face of which our modest powers must feel humble."


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Message 212 of 213 (210041)
05-20-2005 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 211 by KKawohl
05-20-2005 2:10 PM

Re: Energy
Hi Kurt,

If you do not have any evidence-based arguments for ID, then threads in the Faith and Belief forum would probably be more appropriate for what you want to discuss.


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Message 213 of 213 (210061)
05-20-2005 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Lammy
04-27-2005 11:35 PM

There can be science in here; coherently metaphysical "energy", if conspiring motions (Newton drew this difference with the same chemistry Kant discussed) are inspiration of Kurts'.

Kurt said in his book

Creation vs. Evolution :
Creation and evolution work in unison. The former can not survive without the latter. If a man and woman desire a child, they set into motion processes of creation and evolution.
The bible states, "If you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, `Move from here to there, and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you." As long as this is not taken literally, it is indeed a true statement.

If a city Master Plan calls for a mountain to be relocated, it will be done. Were the planners, designers, architects, contractors, or the laborers responsible for the finished product?
If God, via inspiration initiates a process, or causes currents to carry a germinated seed on a meteorite to a distant planet; to create and have life evolve thereby, is not God creating life and responsible for evolution?
If life is created and it does not evolve, it perishes.
Creation of the universe is a formation of something from nothing. If evolution is combined with creation, we have a feasible concept. Most religious concepts of creation are that God, a mysterious entity that has always existed, came out of nowhere and created the entire universe; this is illogical.
Evolution is the development, progression change of organisms, cells or molecules by means of the adaptation to the demands of the environment. Mass and energy is the result of evolution. Dust particles gather to evolve into mass. If mass is compressed to the point of fusion, spontaneous combustion and fission create energy; the universe thereby evolves.

I prefer to stick with the difference of a circle and oval however.

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