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Author Topic:   Harun Yahya & Sahelanthropus
Quetzal
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Message 16 of 19 (16110)
08-27-2002 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Andya Primanda
08-26-2002 2:57 AM


You're right, Andya, it isn't "fair". I personally feel that Yahya is even MORE dangerous in the long term than our homegrown Christian creationists. His mix of anti-science and islamist rhetoric appeals to a far more volatile and essentially homogenous mix of people than do the Protestant fundamentalists in the US. Here we have a much more heterogenous mix that will serve to slow or even halt the politicization of the issue (the creationists in the US are notable for their utter lack of success in their chosen venue - the courts - over the last couple decades or so). OTOH, Yahya and his ilk already have religious-based or at least influenced governments to support him. And it's only ONE religion. Considering he's a highly-touted (and popular) religious and islamist writer, his anti-science stance will receive even more support from the masses.

If Yahya succeeds, as it appears he's going to, I only hope our homegrown fundies will learn from the chance to see what a true anti-science theocracy can accomplish in the abolishment of thought, progress, and science. Of course, they'll just write the whole thing off as an abberration of those heathen Moslems. It certainly couldn't happen here - we're ever so much more advanced.

[PS: That's why I'm so anti-creationist generally. I see Yahya wannabes throughout the creationist movement here. I do NOT want my children growing up in a theocracy - even a Christian one.]


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SalmonHunter
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Message 17 of 19 (16151)
08-28-2002 1:38 AM


I couldn't agree more. I'm only 17 now, and without children (thank god), and I wonder what our country will be like when I'm married and having kids. Will my kids be subjected to Christianity on every level and be oppressed because they aren't relgious? Obviously the right-wing fundementalists Christians are gaining power as each day progesses, and it makes one think what state this country will be in in 25 years. Now that Bush is powering up for a religious war, it becomes even more scary for me because I will get drafted if he decides to attack Iraq. It almost makes me want to move to Europe...
  
Andya Primanda
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Message 18 of 19 (16162)
08-28-2002 7:00 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Quetzal
08-27-2002 10:08 AM


Strangely, before Harun Yahya gained popularity I like to think that creationism is associated with Christianity, and Muslims love to state that they're different from other faiths... I am not opinionated about theocracy or anarchy or secular government, but I really hate to see that some Muslims actively promotes pseudoscience & deceit just to attract followers for a political goal. Science does not need politics!
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Andya Primanda
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Message 19 of 19 (21073)
10-30-2002 3:00 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Andya Primanda
08-28-2002 7:00 AM


bump. {currently in need or support]
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