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Author Topic:   Creation of the Earth v.s. creation of man
Tal
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Message 8 of 57 (210896)
05-24-2005 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Brian
11-01-2003 2:49 PM


Not EVERY.
Population Statistics?
Interestingly enough world population growth rate in recent times is about 2% per year. Practicable application of growth rate throughout human history would be about half that number. Wars, disease, famine, etc. have wiped out approximately one third of the population on average every 82 years. Starting with eight people, and applying these growth rates since the Flood of Noah's day (about 4500 years ago) would give a total human population at just under six billion people. However, application on an evolutionary time scale runs into major difficulties. Starting with one "couple" just 41,000 years ago would give us a total population of 2 x 1089. 9 The universe doesn't have space to hold so many bodies.
Creation Evidences Museum *don't have the website available*
Breakdown of Human Population since Jesus Christ.
250 million in 0 A.D.
1 billion in 1804,
2 billion in 1927 (123 years later)
3 billion in 1960 (33 years)
4 billion in 1974 (13 years)
5 billion in 1987 (12 years)
6 billion in 1999 (12 years)
7 billion in 2013 (14 years - projected)
8 billion in 2028 (15 years - projected)
10.7 (high) or 8.9 (middle) or 7.3 (low) billion projected for 2050
http://www.overpopulation.org/faq.html

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Tal
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Message 11 of 57 (210912)
05-24-2005 4:10 PM
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05-24-2005 3:30 PM


World population growth peaked at about two percent per year in the early 1960s. Latest population figures indicate that the rate of growth has slowed to 1.33 percent annually, equivalent to 78 million people a year. UNFPA 1999
World Population website seems to concur.

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Tal
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Message 13 of 57 (210915)
05-24-2005 4:12 PM
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05-24-2005 3:24 PM


Oh my, you've got to be kidding me. If population statistics worked that way, that would mean that bacteria could take over every single cubic inch of the earth in less than a week
I suppose according to your logic, the earth is only about a week old!
Except we don't have accurate statistics of bacteria. We do of human population.

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Tal
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Message 14 of 57 (210916)
05-24-2005 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by MangyTiger
05-24-2005 4:11 PM


Re: Population statistics
Note that the formula for calculating the population is given in the rebuttal article I linked to (unlike in any of the Creationist sites where you can find this horseshit).
You'll note I also quoted actuall population statstics from No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.overpopulation.org/faq.htmlwhich is hardly a creationist website.

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Tal
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Message 16 of 57 (210922)
05-24-2005 4:29 PM
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05-24-2005 4:20 PM


Well here's the evolutionists answer to the human population curve.
250 million in 0 A.D.
1 billion in 1804,
2 billion in 1927 (123 years later)
3 billion in 1960 (33 years)
4 billion in 1974 (13 years)
5 billion in 1987 (12 years)
6 billion in 1999 (12 years)
Solid data...can't argue with that.
Oh look, it appears that the population curve levels out a tad after year 0....but suddenly its 10,000-50,000 bc!
And you can find almost endless other graphs. Funny how they can all stop around 5K years ago...or go on to infinity in the reverse direction depending on how you look at it.
Good stuff.

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Tal
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Message 22 of 57 (211087)
05-25-2005 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by PaulK
05-24-2005 4:20 PM


It's not evidence that humans have been around only 6000 years. It's just selective use of data to make an invalid extrapolation.
I suppose if we used a period where the population growth was negative you'd accept that as evidence we didn't exist ?
Plug those numbers in on a standard graph where the population numbers represent X and the timeline represents Y. It would seem quite obvious where X and Y would originate.

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Tal
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Message 23 of 57 (211089)
05-25-2005 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Alasdair
05-24-2005 4:51 PM


What is the worldwide growth rate of houseflies in a year?
This message has been edited by Tal, 05-25-2005 09:17 AM

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Tal
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Message 28 of 57 (211209)
05-25-2005 3:45 PM
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05-25-2005 2:49 PM


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What is the worldwide growth rate of houseflies in a year?
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Exactly.
We have the worldwide growth rate of humans in a year. We don't for the housflies.

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