If Evolution was proved beyond doubt...

If God were to appear in the sky and announce to the world that the Bible is in fact literally true, and the world and all life was created in 6 days, I would think that even the most outspoken evolutionists would have to stand up, red-faced, and say Ok, I was wrong. So which way is Hell? Oh yeah, down I guess.Suppose things went the other way, however. What if irrefutable evidence was found that supported evolution? Say a mine was dug somewhere and they accidentally found a timeline of complete fossils, showing an unbroken sequential progression of creatures gradually changing from an original species ‘A’ to a distinct new species ‘B’. This is just a possible example, it doesn’t even really matter what the actual evidence may be. We just need to imagine it as proof beyond doubt of evolution.It would be a "smoking gun" that would lay to rest all the usual creationist arguments against ToE--which even the most reasonable and intelligent ID proponent could not deny.In such a situation, how would faith stand up to it? Would die-hard ID’ers and creationists (or even just ordinary religious people who take the Bible’s word for it) argue that God actually created that irrefutable evidence so that the ‘unfaithful’ would be led away from God by this manufactured evidence and only the truly faithful would see through it. What does everyone think?This message has been edited by Thor, 05-19-2005 10:48 PM

I started two threads last week that already existed. I'm not sure if this kind of discussion already has a thread open where you can post.I'm bumping this for one of the... more experienced moderators to review. Thanks.

Hi, Thor. OK..so you are basically saying that if on the one hand, God appeared in the sky then surely any evolutionist and science mind would have to accept the evidence.
If, on the other hand, evolutionary theory was undeniably proven 100%, would any believer admit this fact and would it shake their faith?See if you can shorten the topic premise a bit...make it concise and easily readable. Get back to us. PBHere is how I would shorten it: Do you agree, Thor? This message has been edited by AdminPhat, 05-19-2005 03:22 AM

My instincts are that this opening message would be destined to lead to a big mess of a topic. My non-admin mode would dispute the above quoted. I think the first paragraph would best be dropped entirely. Abiogenesis is a seperate matter from evolution. Again, the non-admin mode would dispute that the above quoted situation would "prove to beyond a reasonable doubt" that such actually did happen some billions of years ago. I recommend that all the abiogenesis considerations also be dropped from the topic. I think this sentence might make an excellent starting point for a new topic. Drop everything before it, and maybe try expressing the following better.Please post any revisions as a new message. If approved, that new message can become message 1 of the new topic.Hope I didn't let too much non-admin mode get into this message.Comments from other admins welcome.Adminnemooseus

Phat & Mooseus,Thanks for your constructive comments. You guys are the admins and I’m the infrequent poster, so I’m happy to listen to helpful suggestions. In hindsight, I agree I probably did ramble on a little too much!Mooseus, although you and I are quite aware that abiogenesis and evolution are separate matters, the main reason I put them together in this case is because a lot of creationists seem to lump them together. As they are the ones that I see as being affected by the whole hypothetical scenario I presented, I thought I’d include them both. However, I think I’ll defer to your judgement here and just deal with evolution. I might start a separate topic later for abiogenesis, if this one proves interesting.Phat, I liked your shortened version. Going by that combined with Mooseus suggestions, I’ve edited the OP. Sound better?

OK... let's promote and see what happens. The OP is now the new If Evolution was proved beyond doubt....This message has been edited by AdminSylas, 05-26-2005 08:19 AM