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crashfrog

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Message 166 of 168 (214307)
06-04-2005 8:46 PM

Reply to: Message 165 by Rrhain
06-04-2005 8:24 PM

The big difference between annulment and divorce is that annulment means the marriage never existed.

That's why I suspected that failure to consummate as grounds for divorce would be redundant; who would opt to divorce when annullment was an option?

But, assuming there is no active fraud, failure to have children is not sufficient to file for an annulment these days.

Yeah, see, that's what I thought. But Holmes is acting like I'm some kind of idiot for thinking that.

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MangyTiger

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Message 167 of 168 (214326)
06-04-2005 9:15 PM

Reply to: Message 166 by crashfrog
06-04-2005 8:46 PM

But, assuming there is no active fraud, failure to have children is not sufficient to file for an annulment these days.

Yeah, see, that's what I thought. But Holmes is acting like I'm some kind of idiot for thinking that.

Huh? My reading has been that holmes has consistently been arguing that it was grounds in the (distant) past - in fact in Message 149 he very explicitly says he accepts that it has changed over time and is no longer true:

holmes writes:

There is no question that it has changed over time, and I have already agreed with you on this matter. That is why discussing what present day Missouri laws have on their books is irrelevant to my point about its history, which you claimed to be about property (and is patently false).

Surely his entire argument is about the ancient roots of marriage, not the current practice?

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Message 168 of 168 (214332)
06-04-2005 9:25 PM

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