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joshua221 
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Message 46 of 68 (214336)
06-04-2005 9:29 PM
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06-03-2005 10:02 PM


Re: Lucy -- deformed? why conclude so
Is lucy a transitional? A missing link?
My bio teacher briefly told me no. He hadn't the time to explain, I had to go.

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Message 47 of 68 (214369)
06-04-2005 10:49 PM
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06-04-2005 9:29 PM


Lucy a missing link?
Is lucy a transitional? A missing link?
My bio teacher briefly told me no. He hadn't the time to explain, I had to go.
Well, I'd always say that the answer isn't much good without understanding the way behind it.
To start with I'd have to see a very precise definition for both "transitional" and "missing link".
However, as those words are used popularly (and carelessly) I would say that Lucy qualifies very well as both. Of course, this is technically silly since Lucy isn't missing. With other definitions you might get a different answer though. Ask your biology teacher for the reasoning he is using and the definitions.
There is at least one thread on "transitionals" I suggest that you add this question there rather than run this thread off on a tangent.
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joshua221 
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Message 48 of 68 (214371)
06-04-2005 10:52 PM
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06-04-2005 10:49 PM


Re: Lucy a missing link?
quote:
However, as those words are used popularly (and carelessly) I would say that Lucy qualifies very well as both. Of course, this is technically silly since Lucy isn't missing. With other definitions you might get a different answer though. Ask your biology teacher for the reasoning he is using and the definitions.
Ok, don't worry, my bio teacher is very much an evolutionist, a teacher at my school for 30 years. But thanks for the brief info.

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Message 49 of 68 (214373)
06-04-2005 10:54 PM
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06-04-2005 10:52 PM


Change your profile RIGHT NOW. - prophex
Remove the long neeeewww yoooork bit immediately or I will try to mess with your profile. I can't guarentee that it will survive such messing.
ABE
It seems that has been done by someone, thank you.
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{I did it, at ~11:30 pm eastern time. Posted this edit at ~11:35 pm Eastern time. Barely resisted having Prophex join his brother in suspension status. - Adminnemooseus}
{Added by 2nd edit - Changed my mind. Prophex is also suspended for 24 hours. - Adminnemooseus}
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joshua221 
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Message 50 of 68 (214374)
06-04-2005 10:56 PM
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06-04-2005 10:54 PM


Re: Change your profile RIGHT NOW. - prophex
haha knew you'd get a kick out of that!

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joshua221 
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Message 51 of 68 (214375)
06-04-2005 10:59 PM
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06-04-2005 10:54 PM


Re: Change your profile RIGHT NOW. - prophex
what do you think about this?

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joshua221 
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Message 52 of 68 (214376)
06-04-2005 11:04 PM
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Re: Change your profile RIGHT NOW. - prophex
its like my secondary signasture lol

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Message 53 of 68 (214379)
06-04-2005 11:21 PM
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06-04-2005 10:56 PM


Your avatar
Sorry, I didn't notice that this was a science thread when I posted on it.
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Message 54 of 68 (214386)
06-04-2005 11:51 PM
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06-04-2005 11:04 PM


Prophex suspended for 24 hours
Prophex joins his brother - Is now suspended for 24 hours for being an obnoxious twit.
It's now gone, but he had a long, for lack of a better term, rant entered in the "From" field of his profile. Instead of fixing it as requested by AdminNosy, he posted several "cute" messages.
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Message 55 of 68 (214391)
06-05-2005 12:08 AM
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Re: Prophex suspended for 24 hours
Interesting thread. I have a question of where science is going from here in regards to genetics and evolution. For example, I have enrolled in the Genographic project of the National Geographic. I have sent in a sample of my DNA and I will be able to follow it back as the project proceeds.
Are studies such as this likely to tell us more about evolution or will it just track modern man?
Will other genetic studies be able to give us a more definitive handle on evolution and whether Darwinism is collapsing or is being confirmed?

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Message 56 of 68 (214395)
06-05-2005 12:19 AM
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06-05-2005 12:08 AM


Genographic project
That sounds really interesting. Could you say more about it? maybe start a thread? That sounds like something I might be interested in participating in also.
lfen

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Message 57 of 68 (214404)
06-05-2005 2:32 AM
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06-04-2005 11:51 PM


Re: Prophex suspended for 24 hours
It's now gone, but he had a long, for lack of a better term, rant entered in the "From" field of his profile. Instead of fixing it as requested by AdminNosy, he posted several "cute" messages.
No, he actually did fix the most serious problem. He had a long string with no line breaks that was distorting the formating. That was removed almost before I asked.

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Message 58 of 68 (214407)
06-05-2005 2:52 AM
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05-03-2004 5:34 PM


Jar,
This is just a mild critique of your statement:
There are many species that have existed for a long, long time. Some, many in fact, have existed pretty much unchanged since the time of the dinosaur.
No species is known to have existed for more than a few thousand years. I hear the claim for a few million but doubt it (genetic drift, etc). Either way, living fossils are major taxonomic groups that have remained relatively unchanged over time. Fossil cockroaches, xiphosurans (horseshoe crabs), and Odonates (dragonflies) are very similar in form to modern representatives of those groups but are by no means the same species or even the same families. I am sure you recognize this but wanted to point it out before some creos grabbed the wrong end of the stick and proceeded to beat around the bush with it (stolen mixed metaphor from the Rutles).

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Message 59 of 68 (214497)
06-05-2005 12:20 PM
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06-05-2005 2:52 AM


You're absolutely correct. Thanks for making that clear.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 60 of 68 (214517)
06-05-2005 3:02 PM
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06-04-2005 10:52 PM


Re: Lucy a missing link?
Ok, don't worry, my bio teacher is very much an evolutionist, a teacher at my school for 30 years. But thanks for the brief info.
So?
I would be interested in what he has to say when you have time to allow for a more detailed discussion with him. You could take this to a transitional thread.
The Definition and Description of a "Transitional" would be the best one I think.

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