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nos482
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Message 7 of 39 (21374)
11-02-2002 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by NimLore
11-02-2002 2:19 PM


Originally posted by NimLore:
I have received Jacks book and am astounded at his findings...
But then again you also believe in the bible as being all true as well. So, it isn't all that hard to trick you, apprarently.
I am very suprised that the neanderthal man bones were tampered with by the evolutionists in control... and I sure hope that there becomes a greater accountability to those museums/peoples that have the orignal fossils, and that those evolutionists continue to allow trained creationists to partake in the evaluation of these fossils...
It's a conspiracy I tell you!!!
If it does not happen than it is proof enough to me that the whole modern evolutionist movement is based soley upon money and not for the furthering of science!
Sure, it is not as if the Church is quite hard up as well.
Only together with us pushing for the truth will we be able to uncover it, that is until God says otherwise.
Praise God for people like Jack Cuozzo
What you are pushing for is far from being the real truth.
Can anyone give me other creationist titles that are worth the read?
Why don't you try looking in the fiction section of any book store?
[This message has been edited by nos482, 11-02-2002]

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nos482
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Message 10 of 39 (21400)
11-02-2002 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by NimLore
11-02-2002 4:13 PM


Originally posted by NimLore:
It is not my problem if you have a blatant disregard for facts.
Only when they are gathered through prayer alone as is your stated case.
My objective here is not to get into insult slinging but rather to look at what proof there is..
If that were true you wouldn't be a creationists.
Now why don't you try and actually prove to me that the things I said are untrue... because to me and many other honest people, we see these as observable facts.
At one time people thought that the Sun went around the Earth because that is what they saw.
So if you would keep your insults to yourself and act more like a real man, things would run much more smoothly.
Irrelevant.

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nos482
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Message 17 of 39 (21427)
11-02-2002 7:14 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by gene90
11-02-2002 5:32 PM


Originally posted by gene90:
Foul.
Turkey?
So you're attacking science now?
Don't be silly even then most "scientists" knew the truth, they just don't want to get burned at the stake.

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nos482
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Message 18 of 39 (21428)
11-02-2002 7:16 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by NimLore
11-02-2002 5:56 PM


quote:
Originally posted by NimLore:
THink of the money that is in the evolutionary world.. would you tell me that all those textbooks going into schools is not a multi billion dollar industry..... The devil is a crafty one..LOL
There is no money in education if the state of American science education is any indication. BTW, those textbooks are paid for with tax dollars, there is no profit at all.
There is lots of money in religion, though.
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nos482
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Message 19 of 39 (21429)
11-02-2002 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by TrueCreation
11-02-2002 6:13 PM


Originally posted by TrueCreation:
Get a life, TrueCretin.

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nos482
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Message 21 of 39 (21433)
11-02-2002 8:11 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Itzpapalotl
11-02-2002 7:44 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Itzpapalotl:
quote:
There is lots of money in religion, though.
Indeed Ken Ham (head of answers in Genesis) made $170,634 in 2001, plus a contribution towards his benefits of $13,296! (10-26-2002 the kentucky post http://www.kypost.com/2002/10/26/genes102602.html). compare this to Eugenie Scott who runs the National Center for Science Education. She makes $70,000 plus $6958 in benefits, if you are only after money creationism not science is the way to go.

That is because there is a sucker born (again) every minute.

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nos482
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Message 27 of 39 (21449)
11-03-2002 7:11 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by gene90
11-02-2002 9:57 PM


Originally posted by gene90:
My point was that you were devaluing the value of observation, an essential tenet of science. For most of history the observation that the sun apparently revolved around the Earth was a solid foundation for "scientific" geocentrism, as it was at the time. *Later* observations, and a lot of math, eventually demonstrated that the obvious solution was not the correct one.
Observation alone is not proof. There is much more to the process. It's like those who only use logic and word games as their sole evidence. Long after science learned the truth religion stuck to the old inaccurate belief and enforced it.
But I don't think you should knock geocentrism because it was sound science a long time ago.
Science learns from its errors, religion doesn't.
[This message has been edited by nos482, 11-03-2002]

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nos482
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Message 28 of 39 (21450)
11-03-2002 7:13 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by gene90
11-02-2002 9:58 PM


quote:
Originally posted by gene90:
This guy needs to get banned.
Yes, TC does. He called me an ignoramus.

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nos482
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Message 30 of 39 (21459)
11-03-2002 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by gene90
11-03-2002 2:14 PM


Originally posted by gene90:
So if God appeared in your living room you would still be a nontheist?
Of course. Seeing that god exists is not the same as worshipping it.
Also, observation is required in science. Without it, there would be no science. Therefore an attack on observation is necessarily an attack on science.
You're not listening, big surprise. Contrary to what you're saying, I didn't do any such thing.

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nos482
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Message 32 of 39 (21463)
11-03-2002 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by John
11-03-2002 3:19 PM


quote:
Originally posted by John:
Then you have just changed the definition of theist have you not? Theism is the belief in, not the worship of, a god or gods.

Notice, I didn't say believe in. In the context of theism belief and worship are the same.
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