Should those of religious faith be allowed to run this country?

Horowitz has given plenty of documentation of this but it may take me a while to track it all down for you and I have to get back to work for the next few hours.

The rules that worry you so much are nothing but a formalization of good old American and indeed LIBERAL views of freedom of speech, thought, opinion etc. Looks to me like you'd all like to hold on to your bastion of totalitarian tyranny in the classroom. How LIBERAL of you all.

Where are you looking for your information? I bet that's a clue here.But again, I'll try to track it down later. I know it's going to take some work because this issue gets discussed all over the place instead of collected in one.

You are speaking completely from your own bias instead of trying to discover the valid information that has led to the Bill of Rights.

I'll try to find a discussion of this fear of lawsuits too, but if I can't it may be worthwhile discussing it with David Horowitz. I may write him about it.If profs just do their jobs and stop trying to indoctrinate their students in irrelevant opinions why should there be a problem for heaven's sake? You all sure do sound like you don't want to give up your right to tyrannize students.If I can't find any information on it, I may also write him about the questions concerning evolutionism in the classroom. I'm not aware that it's come up and don't see why it should be a problem, but the paranoia about such things is so thick I guess I need to investigate the possibility.Interestingly liberals aren't interested in discussing anything with David Horowitz, they just throw pies at him and engage in other forms of suppressive, violent and abusive treatment. Such respect for diversity of opinion!! Such concern for rights and freedoms from the self-styled liberal faction!!

HOROWITZ certainly knows what goes on in the hiring process whether I do or not. And his aim is to STOP THE POLITICAL BIAS and ESTABLISH purely academic standards instead of your false idea that he would change that????? So you didn't encounter it. Great. Some do. That's the point.This message has been edited by Faith, 06-08-2005 02:27 PMThis message has been edited by Faith, 06-08-2005 02:28 PM

Horowitz's aim is to stop bias on all sides. Times do change. One kind of bias is no better than another.

Because I read most of his stuff.

I can find many examples of where he has strongly spoken against the idea, and shown how his bill of rights prevents conservative abuses too, but the fact is there ISN'T any conservative bias in universities at the moment.

Unless it's true that the left has been violating its perfectly neutral, egalitarian and thoroughly liberal principles, and in fact the left's paranoia about it sure does suggest that's the case.

OK, not that there are NO conservative violations. In fact David Horowitz does document a few of those, but the fact is that the great majority are on the side of the left these days.

I did spend some time checking: There are no statistical studies of the sort that are demanded here. It might be a difficult thing to study statistically at this point. But there is a wealth of checkable information of various kinds.Unfortunately the main web site is arranged in such a way that I can't link to separate sections of it. I could maybe go through it and select out quotable parts and give a title to help you find them, but that would take a lot of time and since the basic mentality here is not open to anything I have to say I've decided it's not worth it.Here's the web site:Sucuri WebSite Firewall - Access DeniedAnd just to keep the evidence on CAIR up front:http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=...And here's the one CSteve contributed about the Koran's war verses:Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out - David HorowitzNow I know most here don't recognize this evidence as evidence but there it is for anybody who knows better.

The story about Nicole Krogman at Wells is a Press Release, not something SAF wrote. I googled the story myself and found a credible report about the plagiarism charge, supporting your view, then emailed Students for Academic Freedom to alert them to the problem so they can remove the story from their site -- or refute the charge if possible.This message has been edited by Faith, 06-09-2005 02:10 AM

Can you quote the Qur'an on women's rights and freedom of religion and where it judges all mankind as equal please? And are you denying the parts of the Qur'an that give a completely different picture?

Your repulsive rude doctrinaire attitudes of course show exactly why Horowitz's work is needed.