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Hangdawg13
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Message 65 of 97 (216735)
06-14-2005 12:02 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by purpledawn
06-13-2005 7:25 AM


Re: God is Imagination
I'm not, you said he was behind the weather. If I misunderstood that comment I apologize. I consider God to be a concept that was created by ancient man to describe that which he could not see, control, or understand.
You did misunderstand, but it's not your fault. God is behind the weather and in the weather. The weather is not God and God is not the weather, but the weather is in God and God is in the weather. Gah... words fail.
Hell, Buddha says it better than I can.
"It is that which you see before you - begin to reason about it and you at once fall into error."
All I can say is that if you want to know "what God is" you have to expand your ways of thinking.
This message has been edited by Hangdawg13, 06-14-2005 12:03 AM

"Words take us further from the Truth. Where can I find a man who has no use for words so that I may sit and speak with him." -- Ancient Chinese Philosopher Dude

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Hangdawg13
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From: Texas
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Message 93 of 97 (217267)
06-15-2005 8:51 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by lfen
06-14-2005 2:46 AM


Re: You are the no thing ness
Hi Ifen,
I just want to say thanks a ton for patiently and persistently providing the Eastern view on these things. It took a while, but your message finally got through my thick skull. I have done just a tiny bit of reading on the internet in the last couple of days, and I can't really put into words the flood of new thoughts I'm having. They aren't so much new thoughts as just greatly clarified thoughts through a new viewpoint and a new vocabulary -- like only seeing an object from one direction and suddenly walking around it to see the whole thing. I am also excited to learn that many others have come to the same conclusions I have.
All kinds of random passages from the Bible keep popping into my head and making connections with this Eastern doctrine. Many passages that didn't really make sense to me before are suddenly shining brilliantly with the truth.
At present I cannot focus on reading anything, but as soon as the flood of thoughts subsides a little, I will be sure to check out this book by Bernadette Roberts. Thanks again.

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Hangdawg13
Member (Idle past 771 days)
Posts: 1189
From: Texas
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Message 94 of 97 (217270)
06-15-2005 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by Phat
06-14-2005 7:36 AM


Re: You are the no thing ness
Hangdawg, are you on vacation from school this summer? You seem to have a bit of time for theological discourse! What--No Job??
Howdy Phatboy. I have a job... if you can call it that. I'm lifeguarding again this summer. I only get about 5 hours a day most days, and I don't do anything, but sit or stand there... gives me lots of time to think though!
In my spare time I've been doing internet research, hanging out with old friends, watching movies, working out, shopping for a motorcycle (I'm getting a Kawasaki Ninja EX500 soon), helping the folks out with work around the house, trying to read a few classics though I keep getting distracted, and playing around on my Xanga blog.
Life is purty dang good.

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Hangdawg13
Member (Idle past 771 days)
Posts: 1189
From: Texas
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Message 95 of 97 (217271)
06-15-2005 9:08 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Hangdawg13
06-15-2005 8:51 PM


Re: You are the no thing ness
I feel after two OT posts that I should attempt to say something relevant to the thread, so I'll try and put into Eastern terms what I have struggled to get out before. I have copied this from my blog:
Some say that truth doesn't exist, or if it does, it is unknowable. This philosophy stems from the mind's attachment to the physical world through naturalism or scientism. These say that if we are to apprehend truth, it is through the five senses or through logic based on assertions gathered from the five senses -- empiricism or rationalism.
So long as we think this way, the Truth will elude us because we can always doubt whether the "things" that are percieved by our senses are real or illusory. And if they are real, there is no finding out what they truly are. We have busted up everything that is physical to the tiniest of bits yet our discovery seems as though it will never end in the holy grail of science: the Theory of Everything.
Instead we must percieve everything as not a "thing", but a process. Truth is not to be found in the process. Truth IS the process. Truth cannot be percieved by our five senses because Truth IS the sensing. The mind cannot be used to discover The Mind because the mind IS the Mind.

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Hangdawg13
Member (Idle past 771 days)
Posts: 1189
From: Texas
Joined: 05-30-2004


Message 97 of 97 (217288)
06-15-2005 11:43 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by lfen
06-15-2005 10:34 PM


Re: You are the no thing ness
Is your blog by invitation only? Sounds like something I would enjoy reading.
My blog is Hangdawg13 on xanga. I only put philosophical stuff on there half the time, and when I do, that is when I get the fewest comments... so I dunno if it is interesting or not, but its there if you want to read it.
Edit: I spose I should post the link: http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=Hangdawg13
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