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The only thing misleading is evolutionists' portrayal of the Creation model of biological evolution.
So, provide a detailed "Creation Model of Biological Evolution" so we will stop "misrepresenting" it. If you know enough about it to know we are misrepresenting it, then you should have no trouble producing it.
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Allison: Your faith is based upon evidence found in nature rather than any supernatural, holy, sacred, or otherwise religious idea. You look at new evidence from nature all the time to see if your faith is to be rejected or strengthened, because with every new discovery, it might go either way. You make predictions about what we will find in nature, and if the predictions fail, then your faith is weakened.
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John Paul:Are you telling me what my faith is?
No.
I am making a point that the word "faith" has different meanings, even though you seem to have unilaterally decided that it has only one. This seems rather desperate, this getting "cute" with definitions.
You said "faith is faith", and I simply described the kind of "faith" that I put in scientific theories in such a way that would show you that, when applied to religious "faith", it wasn't the same kind of thing at all.
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I see evidence for God all around me and yes if someday we were to prove (or at least get unrefutable evidence for) that the big-bang theory, nebula hypothesis, abiogenesis and the ToE are ALL indicative of reality, Iwould change the way I perceived God & Scripture (that is if I am still alive).
There is no such thing as "irrefutable evidence" in science, so you have made science's goal impossible to reach.
Also, you have been terribly inconsistent the entire time you have been here. Sometimes you say that the only problem Creationists have is with the origin of life (Abiogenesis), and then you go on for a while about ID, even though your favorite reference, Behe, accepts evolution, that there wasn't a Flood, the universe is billions of years old, etc. At other times, you argue for the Flood, that evolution doesn't happen, etc.
Do you accept the evidence which supports the Germ Theory of Disease?
The reason I ask is that, in the Bible, either God or evil spirits cause disease, not microorganisms. If you are to remain consistent (which you haven't been), it seems that you must reject the Germ Theory of Disease.
I mean, the only reasons you have really given to why you object to the science that you do are religious, or personal incredulity.