Religious views of Magic the Gathering--PLEASE HELP!

I brought it up as an appeal to common knowledge. Schraf confirmed that it is common knowledge. You are the one who said you'd studied it in great depth, not I, so you are the one in a position to supply the evidence.Since it came up I'm now curious about it. I did a little googling on the subject but there's nothing scholarly out there that I could find in such a brief foray, though there are references to the fact that all cultures have versions of this, so it's not just an individual quirk or isolated to some parts of the world.Interesting though that fairies and gnomes and UFOs are classified by some as intermediate between the angelic orders and humanity. There was a Reverend Kirk of Scotland who was obsessed with the fairies and wrote a book on the subject:Parascope.comThis is all pretty off topic though. I was assuming any such phenomena are fallen angels, which I know exist, but this is all something else.Anyway, I look forward to your bibliography which must be quite extensive to judge by the depth to which you claim to have studied these things.

So you've spoken to or seen or somehow confirmed the existence of invisible evil winged thigns? How did this come about?

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'Most temperate in the pleasures of the body, his passion was for glory only, and in that he was insatiable.'

Last time: 1) This isn't a science thread, and 2) You are the one who said you'd studied this phenomena IN GREAT DEPTH, so I'd really like to see your bibliography because it's come to interest me. Thank you.

"The Bible tells me so."

Translation: "I claimed it, but I don't intend to ever support it."Faith, most of the stuff you think is "common knowledge" is just made-up. Either you made it up or someone else did and told it to you. Presumably some day you'll grow up and realize this. So, in fact, you don't have any evidence, which has been my point all along.

You're the one who claims to have all the evidence. You're the know-it-all. What could you possibly learn from me?

Funny, Schraf agreed with me that there's "tons of evidence" for experiences of these things. I guess you're the only one who doesn't know about them. Don't claim to have studied something in depth if you didn't.So have the last word if you want. We've descended to bickering again.

It has just occured to me - if the spirits and demons don't bother those of us who are unbelievers...why did the ghostbusters need those costly protonpacks? Surely they could have just had disbelief cannons?

Well I haven't seen the evidence from either side and Schraf is not an expert in this area as far as I am aware. Since you made the claim, why don't you provide your evidence and then we can explore the counterclaims of Crashfrog.This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 19-Jun-2005 05:48 AM

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Oh look, this young woman was saved from Demons.BBC NEWS | Europe | Crucified nun dies in 'exorcism'feel the love...

Very weird story. An exorcism is not to punish the person, and I've never heard of such a thing being done to anyone. I think the priest must be possessed.

My Arch Angel disagrees with you.White is overrated, anyway. Some very good cards, yes, but it doesn't obliterate black as some people like to say it does.But yes, due to the nature of MTG, there is no favouring between the colours, and you can find just about any type of creature or object from all types of mythologies.This message has been edited by Melchior, 06-19-2005 01:18 PM

My last deck was an all-black discard deck.I lost it when I moved, but it functioned by forcing the opponent to discard his entire hand as soon as possible so that he would have no options to counter me, and then forcing him to draw and discard additional cards - while dealing damage each time he did so. It was very effective.I really wish I could find it again.

that almost sounds like a bet. i tell you, protection decks are annoying as hell.