archeaology

[QUOTE][B]and I sure hope that there becomes a greater accountability to those museums/peoples that have the orignal fossils, and that those evolutionists continue to allow trained creationists to partake in the evaluation of these fossils...[/QUOTE][/B]All science (except for weapons research) is open. [QUOTE][B]If it does not happen than it is proof enough to me that the whole modern evolutionist movement is based soley upon money and not for the furthering of science![/QUOTE][/B]How can you possibly make money off evolution? It's like making money off gravity.

[QUOTE][B]If that were true you wouldn't be a creationists.[/QUOTE][/B]Foul. [QUOTE][B]At one time people thought that the Sun went around the Earth because that is what they saw.[/QUOTE][/B]So you're attacking science now?[This message has been edited by gene90, 11-02-2002]

[QUOTE][B]Don't be silly even then most "scientists" knew the truth, they just don't want to get burned at the stake[/QUOTE][/B]My point was that you were devaluing the value of observation, an essential tenet of science. For most of history the observation that the sun apparently revolved around the Earth was a solid foundation for "scientific" geocentrism, as it was at the time. *Later* observations, and a lot of math, eventually demonstrated that the obvious solution was not the correct one.But I don't think you should knock geocentrism because it was sound science a long time ago.

[QUOTE][B]Get a life, TrueCretin.[/QUOTE][/B]This guy needs to get banned.

[QUOTE][B]Granted that most scientists are not in it for the money, but rather the passion of it or what ever it is that drives us to do it.. but that still does not negate the fact that time equals money in our society... which to me does not mean we are slaves to money or even serve it.. but the evidence I see so far boldy states that something is up on the side of conspiracy, as to the tampering of evidence of fossils...[/QUOTE][/B]Science isn't about lots of money, it's about middle-class income, at best. If I wanted to get wealthy there are lots of business-related fields I could go into and spend less time in college than with a science track.

[QUOTE][B]would you tell me that all those textbooks going into schools is not a multi billion dollar industry.....[/QUOTE][/B]Yes. And scientists, for the most part, aren't even the ones writing those textbooks! At least not until university level, and then the printer gets most of the money. I'm sure there are royalties but an evolutionary textbook is no more profitable than an accounting textbooks or the infamous, Of People and Pandas.

[QUOTE][B]Observation alone is not proof.[/QUOTE][/B]So if God appeared in your living room you would still be a nontheist?Also, observation is required in science. Without it, there would be no science. Therefore an attack on observation is necessarily an attack on science.

[QUOTE][B]I believe it to be the people who are in control of certain governments or organisations, which would be profited by the continuance of such absurd ideas as those cast out by the naturalists...[/QUOTE][/B]You mean in the same way the Catholic church has impeded the progress of science in order to maintain control over Europe?The problem here is that science is an open forum, conspiracies are impossible because everyone can investigate on their own. [QUOTE][B]I simply stated that there would be lots of money in certain areas of the field as you so pointed out... [/QUOTE][/B]There is a grain of truth in that. Millions of dollars are spent by the petroleum industry in studying historical geology to find the next great reserve. "Evolution" has served us well so far. It keeps our cars on the road and our planes in the air.But if you believe we are deceived you clearly have a low opinion of us. Many participants here are active scientists. They and their kind are running this show. I would not think there is anyone more qualified to comment on the validity of evolution than they.[This message has been edited by gene90, 11-08-2002]