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Author Topic:   Which Bible is Inerrant?
d_yankee
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Message 30 of 86 (219546)
06-25-2005 1:46 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by jar
04-11-2005 2:41 PM


Re: The books of lists...
Huh? "MOST" Christians? You must live in a small secluded place or something as "MOST" Christians believe the Bible to be INFALLIBLE. "SOME", "FEW" Christians may believe it has errors...but that "SOME" don't understand what they are reading.

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d_yankee
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Message 32 of 86 (219552)
06-25-2005 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by jar
06-09-2005 1:02 PM


WRONG!!!
Actually, that is incorrect. The Old Testament was not written in no 600 BC. The Old Testament is a "compilation" of writings from Adam through to right up to the time of the Greeks...
The first five book series of the Bible were a compilation of historic writings on stone, by the forefathers: starting with Adam, Seth, Noah..., up to the writings of Moses(the Law/Torah), and the chosen high priests and scribes put these together...
Later, after papyrus was invented in Babylon...were these sacred Hebrew writings put down in scroll-like papyrus. Then it was again redone in scrolls and translated as the language of ancient Hebrew changed...then under Alexander the Great the Greek language began to dominate the world and therefore the original New Testament writings...again a compilation of books and letters...were written in Greek.
The original Scriptures are not fallible, they are tried and true...it is certain translations that are a little off. One must understand the ancient languages and cultures in order to correctly understand the Bible.

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d_yankee
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Message 33 of 86 (219553)
06-25-2005 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Kraniet
06-09-2005 1:42 PM


Elijah?
First of all it was Joshua, not Elijah. LOL!!!
That shows you are not to knowledgeable of the Bible so you are actually talking ignorantly.

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d_yankee
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Message 37 of 86 (219574)
06-25-2005 3:41 PM
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06-25-2005 2:50 PM


Re: WRONG!!!
Adam wrote down the first 4 chapters.
The way the ancient Hebrews wrote was with ending the writing or scripture with the same way Adam ends his porion beginning in chapter 5 verse 1: "This is the account of Adam"
Noah ends his scripture in chapter 6 verse 9: "This is the account of Noah"
Noah's sons, in chapter 10 verse 1: "This is the account of Shem, Ham, and Japheth"
Noah's son Shem, in chapter 11 verse 10, "This is the account of Shem" ....and so forth throughout Genesis.
As far as stone writings...read up on the history of the Hebrews and you'll find that out.
As far as papyrus that's also history, as easy as an encyclopedia.
As far as infallible...all of its "PROPHECIES" have come to past. All of its "HISTORIC ACCOUNT" have been archeologically confirmed.
Everything taught in its writings have been "TRIED" and are used even by the medical field. The Bible's wisdom and its teachings "WORK". ...and the best one NATURE'S SCARS point to EVERYTHING the BIBLE states.

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d_yankee
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Message 40 of 86 (219627)
06-25-2005 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by jar
06-25-2005 3:47 PM


Re: WRONG!!!
RE:WRONG!!!
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So all you have are unsupported assertions?
As far as infallible...all of its "PROPHECIES" have come to past.
We have threads on that. Perhaps you can find one and post even one prophesy that has been fulfilled.
All of its "HISTORIC ACCOUNT" have been archeologically confirmed.
Please point us towards the archeologically confirmed evidence of
the flood.
the conquest of Canaan.
the Exodus.
the Garden of Eden.
Noah's Ark.
LOVE TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1) The Flood:
...Genesis states in chapter 7 "that the springs underneath "burst" through and the water canopy that surrounded the pre-flood earth poured down for 40 days and 40 nights to completely flood and destroy life on earth".
Does the earth have any "scars" that would point to such a catastrophic event? YES!
(Scar#1) The continental plates show that they were once together and that they were "TORN" apart. In between these continental plates there are oceans of bodies of water known as the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. In the bottom of these oceans there are "RIDGES" that show that there was such a "BURST" and "TEARING" apart in between these continents.
Such an event would send earthquakes and mudslides of all sorts "BURYING" all kinds of creatures and plants.
(Scar#2) Archeologists have found many "FOSSILIZED" animals and plants. Pointing once again to such an event. But also, archeologists have found fossils of "sea shells" and fish...creatures of the sea...on top of MOUNTAINS! North American fossils of animals that would have only lived in the other side of the world. Pointing once again to such an event.
(Scar#3) Genesis states in chapter 1 that the earth had a canopy of water that surrounded the earth. Where is it at now? Well, Genesis 7 states it was poured on the earth. (Brainteaser: Scientists have now found that the rings surrounding Saturn, Uranus, Jupiter...are not rock, but H2O!!! They are made of ice.)Hmmm.
(Scar#4) There needs to be a certain level of temperature in order for a prism to show in the sky after rainfall. No greenhouse effect now. So there can now appear a "rainbow". Showing the people that that canopy no longer threatens us!
(Scar#5) Evolutionists ASSumed that the geological chart of the earth's crust were "DIFFERENT AGES" and development of rock. Well, there have been fossilized trees that rip through those "supposedly" different ages of rock "RIPPING" through that theory.
(Scar#6) When scientists have tested super-charging the atmosphere such as they do in greenhouses with oxygen, water,...etc...plants grow to enormously larger and healthier proportions. As creatures of adaptation Africans develop bigger noses and skin toughens up right? Well, under a different earth climate in the pre-flood earth plants, animals, and humans would have grown to enormously larger and healthier proportions as well. Giving a hint to why mammoths, humans(supposedly, the neandrethal man), plants, trees, dinosaurs, etc...were so BIG. Also sheds some light into why Genesis states that people lived much, much longer in those days. Also pointing to such a pre-flood earth condition.
(Scar#7) Why were there animals and humans preserved in ice? Such an event would have caused such a terrible shift in climate that it would have caused such a freezing in certain parts that it would have caused such things. Ever seen that global warming movie...I think it was called "The Day After Tomorrow". It would have caused something like that. Thus starting the deteriorating of our ozone.
(Scar#8) Where is the Garden of Eden? Such an event would have not only buried it...but according to the geographical implications in Genesis it would be under the sea somewhere in the Atlantic. Hmmm. Wonder where the Atlantis legend came from? Hmmm.
(Scar#9) Part of the Egyptian pyramids and their sphinx have corrosion pointing to a part of these great monuments having been under water. Part of these monuments are newer than the older parts. Egyptians must have reconstructed these wonders that were once "SUBMERGED" in water.
(Scar#10) Why would generations that were PREARCHEOLOGY...PRE finding the first dinosaur bones...have legends of dragons? Why would the Bible speak about dragons and behemoths. Dragon = Dinosaur. Descriptions...same "KIND" of animal. Could it be that dragons did exist? Could it be that the same way that humankind have what some call different races, animals have different species, and dragons had different species? They are the dinosaurs!!! Scientists have found corpes of dinosaurs with skin still on them! Millions of years ago they say? LOL!!! In the Congos, the government have parts that they do not allow scientists in...same with the Amazon...Why?
Ask the village people why. They will tell you that in those forbidden jungles abide giant dragons!!!
2) Conquest of Canaan? I don't quite understand your question.
3) The Exodus? I don't understand that one either.
4) The Garden of Eden? I answered that one.
5) Noah's Ark? I don't understand that question either.
Be more specific.

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d_yankee
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Message 41 of 86 (219628)
06-25-2005 10:15 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Asgara
06-25-2005 3:59 PM


Re: OT
Actually, I have been pressing the wrong REPLY button. As I am still getting used to this forum. I may have replied to the wrong post...I'll check.

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d_yankee
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Message 43 of 86 (219636)
06-25-2005 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Asgara
06-25-2005 2:26 PM


Re: WRONG!!!
In Genesis chapter 5 verse 1 it states: this is teh account of Adam...and so forth. Also, history is not ignored by all. Anyone who knows the Hebrew history know that the Bible was put together little by little. The ancient writings of what was the first writings kept and copied and translated as they developed the Scriptures. And yes, you are right about Egypt and papyrus. But I meant that it was put into scrolls and translated in Babylon.

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d_yankee
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Message 49 of 86 (220812)
06-29-2005 8:59 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Nighttrain
06-29-2005 6:32 PM


Re: WRONG!!!
Don't be mad because your lack of knowledge of the Bible was exposed. You are the one who embarrassed yourself with negative and mistaken statements about the Bible. Not understanding or even knowing what you were talking about and expect me to answer a dumb question with anything other than a dumb answer. Duh?!

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d_yankee
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Message 50 of 86 (220813)
06-29-2005 9:04 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by deerbreh
06-29-2005 10:40 AM


Re: Elijah?
Well, since you are a FORGETFUL person your points are futile, untrustworthy and merit no pondering or debate whatsoever.

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d_yankee
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Message 51 of 86 (220814)
06-29-2005 9:07 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Chiroptera
06-29-2005 3:31 PM


Re: Elijah?
If you read it again...it wasn't ISAIAH who was able to do this to the axis...but G-O-D!!! Man, where do these guys come from? You are losing your grip...take a deep breath...ok now...think things over. Get back to your point now.

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d_yankee
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Message 58 of 86 (221012)
06-30-2005 9:12 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by AdminBrian
06-30-2005 2:20 AM


Re: What a nice person
Again, I say...what is your harrassing issue with my comments when I have observed others posts to even contain words such as "dumbass", "idiot", "morons",...etc. And I have not come up to even one post by you on how they are commenting? Huh. Can you answer that before the holiday.

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d_yankee
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Message 59 of 86 (221013)
06-30-2005 9:17 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by deerbreh
06-29-2005 9:19 PM


Re: Elijah?
That's just to let you know that what you "THEORIZE" would happen if the actual CREATOR of all this did such a thing doesn't "PROVE" that it would....especially when the universe's own GOD did it. My goodness...

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d_yankee
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Message 60 of 86 (221014)
06-30-2005 9:22 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Chiroptera
06-29-2005 10:00 PM


Re: Elijah?
Read again...yes you did. With TRUE science we can observe HOW things happen...not WHY. And there are even many things that we can not explain why and how these things exist, why this causes this to happen and so forth...but it happens and we must accept it. Why oxygen? Because. Why does carbs turn into glucose? Because it does.

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d_yankee
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Message 62 of 86 (221017)
06-30-2005 9:38 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Chiroptera
06-30-2005 9:26 PM


Re: Elijah?
If it's not...then I probably pressed your reply button thinking it was the other's post. I apologize if that was the case. But I will check and I thought you were in the discussion...so I don't understand why you can't make sense of what I am saying. Nevertheless if not you then my apologies.

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d_yankee
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Message 64 of 86 (221040)
07-01-2005 12:04 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by deerbreh
06-30-2005 11:46 PM


Re: Elijah?
Whoa... one question at a time there buddy...I felt like I was being interrogated by different people all at one time. LOL.
I try to sum up what you were trying to ask.
How? It was a part of there history just like we Americans have ours and we record it...they did the same.
As far as Scripture? Scripture means writings.
As far a Apocrypha? The books in the Apocrypha are scriptures, yes.
As far as are they prophetic and God inspired? Some are prophetic and some are more historic scriptures.

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